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8.57pm
14 June 2016
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@HMBeatlesfan said
This pisses me off, People who think Wikipedia is an unreliable source because it’s supposedly easy to edit. These dumbasses have clearly never tried to edit Wiki pages. I tried putting down the specific instruments in the articles for Nowhere Man and Paperback Writer (both with multiple sources) and 10 minutes later, I find out someone reverted my changes and stating that The Beatles Bible isn’t a reliable source. I’ve also tried editing other articles with accurate information with no avail.
I actually used to think that Wikipedia was an unrealiable source, but then about a year and a half ago I learned that it is very difficult to edit.
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When people ask a question in a thread while your question is still active.
Like one time, I had someone ask a question 1/2 an hour after I asked mine.
I say it is good to wait a day so you don’t overshadow someone else.
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When people ask a question in a thread while your question is still active.Like one time, I had someone ask a question 1/2 an hour after I asked mine.
I say it is good to wait a day so you don’t overshadow someone else.
That was me. Apologies.
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1 November 2013
Offline Not just you, happens with others too, I myself was guilty of this.
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23 July 2016
Offline William Shears Campbell said
I actually used to think that Wikipedia was an unrealiable source, but then about a year and a half ago I learned that it is very difficult to edit.
It’s great to see a fellow Wikipedia supporter, I wonder what you tried to edit.
Maybe you should try posting more.
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23 July 2016
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This may feel like nitpicking, but it really pisses me off. As you may or may not know (if you don’t, you do now), John Lennon had 2 Fender Strats while with The Beatles, 1 that was Sonic Blue, which he used sparsely on Help ! and Rubber Soul (most notably, both he and George use theirs on Nowhere Man ), and the other with a painted headstock, which you will see in the photos below.
Most people claim that this is a black Strat despite later color pictures of him using the guitar clearly show it’s red. If you think I’m bullshitting you or that it’s a different guitar, why not you look at the regular picture and then see it de-saturated.
As you can see, it clearly looks black when de-saturated, yet professionals like Andy Babiuk claim that the guitar is black, it makes me pissed off.
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It’s great to see a fellow Wikipedia supporter, I wonder what you tried to edit.
Actually what happened was that in school we were taught not to use Wikipedia on our research projects, because it was unreleliable, due to it being able to be edited. Then years later, in my Junior year in highschool, my English teacher showed us that Wikipedia was actually a very reliable source, because it is not easy to edit, it’s moderated, and some pages you need to be a certain rank on the website in order to edit them. He then explained that the reason we shouldn’t use it for research papers is because it’s a 3rd party source, so a Wikipedia article is basically a research paper in and of itself.
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Offline Wiki was banned as a source when I was in college to the point where you had marks removed if you cited it. One reason was that it was considered a dubious source, another being that you were to bother your backside in sourcing material from primary sources than spending 5 minutes looking on wiki and a further 10 minutes rewriting it.
I know someone was caught copying and pasting from it and was removed from the HNC. An absolute idiot for plagiarising.
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23 July 2016
Offline William Shears Campbell said
Actually what happened was that in school we were taught not to use Wikipedia on our research projects, because it was unreleliable, due to it being able to be edited. Then years later, in my Junior year in highschool, my English teacher showed us that Wikipedia was actually a very reliable source, because it is not easy to edit, it’s moderated, and some pages you need to be a certain rank on the website in order to edit them. He then explained that the reason we shouldn’t use it for research papers is because it’s a 3rd party source, so a Wikipedia article is basically a research paper in and of itself.
Great to see teachers growing some balls and telling people the truth instead of the answer the government wants you to hear, it’s funny because there are plenty of sites more inaccurate than Wikipedia. I do recommend using looking at the sources Wikipedia states though and citing those.
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Wiki was banned as a source when I was in college to the point where you had marks removed if you cited it. One reason was that it was considered a dubious source, another being that you were to bother your backside in sourcing material from primary sources than spending 5 minutes looking on wiki and a further 10 minutes rewriting it.
I would’ve written one of my papers using inaccurate sources that aren’t Wikipedia just to piss them off, maybe use Uncyclopedia a couple of times.
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Offline HMBeatlesfan said
Great to see teachers growing some balls and telling people the truth instead of the answer the government wants you to hear, it’s funny because there are plenty of sites more inaccurate than Wikipedia. I do recommend using looking at the sources Wikipedia states though and citing those.
meanmistermustard said
Wiki was banned as a source when I was in college to the point where you had marks removed if you cited it. One reason was that it was considered a dubious source, another being that you were to bother your backside in sourcing material from primary sources than spending 5 minutes looking on wiki and a further 10 minutes rewriting it.I would’ve written one of my papers using inaccurate sources that aren’t Wikipedia just to piss them off, maybe use Uncyclopedia a couple of times.
For us the internet was ok in moderation but it was far preferable to use books.
This was only 6 years ago.
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23 July 2016
Offline That’s funny because for me, books have been obsolete since about 2005 because you can get all the information you want either online, free internet downloads, or programs like uTorrent, so books are more like a novelty item, at least to me.
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Wiki was banned as a source when I was in college to the point where you had marks removed if you cited it. One reason was that it was considered a dubious source, another being that you were to bother your backside in sourcing material from primary sources than spending 5 minutes looking on wiki and a further 10 minutes rewriting it.
Wikipedia cites sources, could just use their sources
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Offline But do you get in trouble if you’re caught using Wikipedia, even if you’re just citing the sources within.
Maybe you should try posting more.
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Offline If I’m having trouble finding sources to use, I go to Wikipedia to get a vague outline of the thing I’m going to write about and then go to the sources they cited. Then I branch out from there to find individual research papers and the like.
Also, a pet peeve loosely related to this topic: My school has an automated plagiarism checker that you are required to put all essays over a certain length through before you turn them in.
It’s completely useless and barely functions. It only checks the paper you upload against papers other students have uploaded and against the school’s assigned reading books. You could theoretically plagiarise an entire article from the internet and as long as it was obscure enough for your teacher to not notice, you wouldn’t get in trouble for it at all. It’s also broken in that it detects direct quotes from the textbooks or assigned reading material as plagiarism, even if they’re properly sourced. All of my teachers are annoyed and so far nothing has been done to fix it after 3 years.
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Offline That would piss me off no end….
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Also, a pet peeve loosely related to this topic: My school has an automated plagiarism checker that you are required to put all essays over a certain length through before you turn them in.
Back when I was in college, I used a similar program. It would put every paper I turned in as 1% plagiarized because I had my last name at the top of the page and I had used the service previously.
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Offline My university has a program like that too, @moriz. Luckily in my position I don’t have to deal with it much. I just have to show students how to upload their papers if they haven’t done it before and ask me to show them how to do it.
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