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Hello BeatleBiblers. I thought I’d start a new thread. The premise? Just post any memorable quotation that you like –from books, songs, films, interviews, etc; either Beatles-related or not. If you can, add the source. That’s it; simple.
I’ll start then. I would like, if you allow me, to share an ancient Chinese text. I read it many years ago in a book, now I found it again online. Many of you surely know it, but then again some might not; for those who don’t, then, from the IV century BC, the Taoist mystic and philosopher Chuang Tzu and his butterfly:
“Once upon a time, I, Chuang Tzu, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was Chuang Tzu. Soon I awoke, and there I was, veritably myself again –but now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.”
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Offline Great idea for a thread, @Oudis – inspirational quotes that offer advice or enlightenment, words we can learn by.
A shame to see people attempting to derail with silliness.
I would like to offer a piece of advice from a former college lecturer, words that I have carried with me since.
Her name was Wendy Gaines, a small-scale published poet, and my English lecturer. We became close friends.
At the time her marriage was breaking up, and she had moved in with someone who she was having a casual fling with. She hadn’t accepted her marriage was over, they were just doing a trial separation – a John/Yoko/May situation!
Just before the collage broke up for Christmas 1985, we were sitting in the canteen talking.
She told me how she was conflicted, that both the husband and the boyfriend wanted her to spend Christmas with them. She was enjoying her boyfriend but had not completely given up on her marriage.
I asked her what she was going to do.
“I don’t know,” she shrugged. “Whatever I decide I’m going to hurt one of them. I suppose it comes down to which choice hurts me less.”
Those words have stayed with me, and helped guide my life.
In effect she was teaching me that sometimes there are no good choices, no right or wrong, just the choice that damages you yourself the least.
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11 November 2010
Offline Ron Nasty said
A shame to see people attempting to derail with silliness.
Sorry. I was just giving a joke response because this question has been asked quite a few times in the All-Purpose thread.
Speaking of, here’s a serious response from said thread.
Necko said, 12/17/15
P3pperish said
Your favourite quote?
A couple of my favorites:
“The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral,
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy.
Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it.
Through violence you may murder the liar,
but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth.
Through violence you may murder the hater,
but you do not murder hate.
In fact, violence merely increases hate.
So it goes.
Returning violence for violence multiplies violence,
adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness:
only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”
-Martin Luther King Jr.
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.”
-Mark Twain
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Offline I’d love to know @Starr Shine?’s explanation of her quote, beyond that it rhymed, as were it a real quote, it would be a negative isolationist quote.
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Offline Cause quotes are often quote mined from the sourse and both mines and moats are dug.
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‘Technique is so secondary to ideas.’ – Richard Wright (the musician, not the author)
‘Anything looked at closely becomes wonderful.’ – A.R. Ammons
‘What?’ – William Shakespeare
(Two serious quotes and a silly one. Everybody’s happy.)
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‘Technique is so secondary to ideas.’ – Richard Wright (the musician, not the author)‘Anything looked at closely becomes wonderful.’ – A.R. Ammons
First quote: I wish more musicians remembered that.
Second quote: I don’t know who A.R. Ammons is, but spot on.
Loved them.
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14 April 2010
Offline I posted this Woody Allen quote recently in a different thread: “If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.” It derives from an ancient Yiddish proverb, “We plan, God laughs.”
I’ve always liked this one attributed to motivational speaker Zig Ziglar (no relation) though I can’t confirm him being the first one to say it: “An optimist is someone who goes after Moby Dick in a rowboat and takes the tartar sauce with him.”
Movie quotes:
“I guess you can say I went west – the way of Heratio Alger, Davey Crocket, the Donner Party….”
Martin Blank (played by John Cusak) in Grosse Pointe Blank
“You see, in this world there’s two kinds of people my friend – those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.”
Blondie (pb Clint Eastwood) in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
“He survived all those storms only to be washed away by a few plastic lottery balls.”
Michael O’Sullivan (pb David Kelly) in Waking Ned Divine
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Second quote: I don’t know who A.R. Ammons is, but spot on.
I don’t either, but I love the quote! 
‘I don’t like photo-realistic art much… it doesn’t show you anything you can’t see for yourself.’ – a friend of mine (I’m paraphrasing a bit cos I forgot exactly what she said)
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“I guess you can say I went west – the way of Heratio Alger, Davey Crocket, the Donner Party….”
Martin Blank (played by John Cusak) in Grosse Pointe Blank
@Zig
Yeah –I remember now. “Grosse Point Blank” was one of your favorite movies, wasn’t it? I love it too. I had the chance to watch it again (I don’t own it) a few months ago; it was just as I remembered it. I love the part when Martin Blank explains Debbie about his “moral flexibility”:
“When I left, I joined the Army, and when I took the service exam, my psych profile fit a certain… “moral flexibility” would be the only way to describe it.”
“Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)
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Remember the Beatles reference?
Marcella: You can take care of business and stop by Grosse Pointe for your reunion.
Martin: Look, Sgt. Pepper , I really need you to shut up about that.
Marcella: Sir, it’s out of my hands. The gods want you to go back home and they want you to delete someone while you’re there.
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@OudisRemember the Beatles reference?
Marcella: You can take care of business and stop by Grosse Pointe for your reunion.
Martin: Look, Sgt. Pepper , I really need you to shut up about that.
Marcella: Sir, it’s out of my hands. The gods want you to go back home and they want you to delete someone while you’re there.
@Zig
I had forgotten… but
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I often think about its inverse: If you don’t have a ‘why’ to live, no ‘how’ ever seems satisfying or worth the effort.
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Offline I first read that attribution as ‘Victor Frankstein.’ Now that dude knew something about the meaning of life: “So much has been done, exclaimed the soul of Frankenstein — more, far more, will I achieve; treading in the steps already marked, I will pioneer a new way, explore unknown powers, and unfold to the world the deepest mysteries of creation.”
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Whisper words of wisdom, JPM.
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