Log In
Register
3.50pm
Reviewers
29 August 2013
Offline
meanmistermustard said
trcanberra said
meanmistermustard said
Lost by 1 point and so so so close.Totally heartbreaking and gutted.
It was 5 tries to 3, and while kicking is an important part of the game, I generally think that any team scoring a couple of tries more than the opposition deserves to win – no matter who is playing.
So 1 side scores 1 try (plus conversion) and 2 penalties deserves to beat a side who score 7 penalties but no tries? No game is that simple. There are other factors such as discipline, tactics etc.
Even the Aussie fans thought you were fortunate – and helps having a ref who when it came to making the big decisions got them wrong – and thats not just coming from aggrieved Scots. No way was it a yellow card in the 42 minute and the ref should have gone to the TMO before awarding the Aussie winning penalty. Doesnt help his case that he bolted off the pitch as soon as he blew his whistle to end the game.
I know it’s not that simple – but if you are giving away so many penalties then usually you will have people sin-binned or sent off which gives the opportunity to score the winning tries. [EDIT] And I said “generally” – not always in the ‘deserving’ bit.
The TMO thing is a distraction – it was a correct decision from the referee.
==> trcanberra and hongkonglady - Together even when not (married for those not in the know!) <==
4.22pm
Moderators
Members
Reviewers
20 August 2013
Offline natureaker said
I actually haven’t until now. But the corn maze we went through was Frozen themed
Gosh, I hate that movie
I actually haven’t until now. But the corn maze we went through was Frozen themed
I didn’t care for Frozen either. Give me Beauty and the Beast or Aladdin. Or better yet, Mary Poppins.
Can buy Joe love! Amazon | iTunes
Check here for "how do I do this" guide to the forum. 
(2017) 
(2018)
4.30pm
Reviewers
29 August 2013
Offline Ahhh Girl said
natureaker said
Gosh, I hate that movie
I didn’t care for Frozen either. Give me Beauty and the Beast or Aladdin. Or better yet, Mary Poppins.
I haven’t seen it but I dislike it on principle; at the HK Disneyland you have to watch the show before touring the attraction – and there was a 3 hour queue for the show!!
The attraction has snow and it would have been a welcome reprieve from the hot and humid day 🙂
The following people thank trcanberra for this post:
Ahhh Girl==> trcanberra and hongkonglady - Together even when not (married for those not in the know!) <==
4.32pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Offline trcanberra said
meanmistermustard said
trcanberra said
meanmistermustard said
Lost by 1 point and so so so close.Totally heartbreaking and gutted.
It was 5 tries to 3, and while kicking is an important part of the game, I generally think that any team scoring a couple of tries more than the opposition deserves to win – no matter who is playing.
So 1 side scores 1 try (plus conversion) and 2 penalties deserves to beat a side who score 7 penalties but no tries? No game is that simple. There are other factors such as discipline, tactics etc.
Even the Aussie fans thought you were fortunate – and helps having a ref who when it came to making the big decisions got them wrong – and thats not just coming from aggrieved Scots. No way was it a yellow card in the 42 minute and the ref should have gone to the TMO before awarding the Aussie winning penalty. Doesnt help his case that he bolted off the pitch as soon as he blew his whistle to end the game.
I know it’s not that simple – but if you are giving away so many penalties then usually you will have people sin-binned or sent off which gives the opportunity to score the winning tries. [EDIT] And I said “generally” – not always in the ‘deserving’ bit.
The TMO thing is a distraction – it was a correct decision from the referee.
Aside from the last touch coming of an Aussie.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
4.54pm
Reviewers
29 August 2013
Offline ^ I’m not much of a rugby fan, but under the current rules they don’t use the TMO for penalties? If they did and if I am reading the match reports right the Scots may not have had some of the ones they were awarded that led to some of their earlier points?
I’ve been on the winning and losing sides of a number of dubious refereeing decisions across the years (the worst being Manchester United eliminated from the Champions League with a Scholes goal being disallowed for offside versus Porto when he was 5 yards onside – leading to the ‘special one’ beginning his climb to fame). I’m not sure what the best system is for keeping some sort of flow in matches.
==> trcanberra and hongkonglady - Together even when not (married for those not in the know!) <==
5.05pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Offline trcanberra said
^ I’m not much of a rugby fan, but under the current rules they don’t use the TMO for penalties? If they did and if I am reading the match reports right the Scots may not have had some of the ones they were awarded that led to some of their earlier points?I’ve been on the winning and losing sides of a number of dubious refereeing decisions across the years (the worst being Manchester United eliminated from the Champions League with a Scholes goal being disallowed for offside versus Porto when he was 5 yards onside – leading to the ‘special one’ beginning his climb to fame). I’m not sure what the best system is for keeping some sort of flow in matches.
From what i’ve read since the referee can go to the TMO if he thinks its required. At such crucial moments in the game and the technology is available then it should be utilised – far more important that the decision made is correct than not taking a couple of minutes out as it will stop the flow of the match.
Football is different as the technology either isnt available or wasnt at the time.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
5.11pm
Reviewers
29 August 2013
Offline “From what i’ve read since the referee can go to the TMO if he thinks its required.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/spo…..h-TMO.html
and also: http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/news/96575
I’m not sure how reliable the Tele is. Of course, if this is correct, I guess it means that the rules might need a review – but that the decision not to use it may have been correct in the circumstance.
The following people thank trcanberra for this post:
Wigwam==> trcanberra and hongkonglady - Together even when not (married for those not in the know!) <==
5.27pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Offline Whilst those may be the ‘rules’ they havent been followed 100% of the time even during this tournament and the WR Chiefs arent going to say he was wrong as it would undermine it all.
But its too late now, nothing is going to change it. Best to try and let it go.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
7.51pm
17 October 2013
Offline I think that’s good self-advice MMM……….
Although I still haven’t gotten over Maradona’s ‘Hand of God ‘! That was more than a refereeing mistake it was cynical blatant game changing cheating……….Still warmly remembered in Scotland by-the-way.
I think trcanberra is pointing out that the Ref, (especially true in Rugby) is often the key figure in any sport. They get things wrong……sometimes almost tragically so……..All countries suffer, and in that sense it will equal out. But it doesn’t help to carp. I was quite proud with how the England football team dealt with and accepted Lampard’s disallowed goal that crossed the line against Germany. They got on with the game without any histrionics ………
I think you can be proud of your team too………They behaved with the same discipline.
Thank god this Ref wasn’t English or we’d never have heard the end of it.
As it is take solace from your performance. Scotland were brilliant last night.
The following people thank Wigwam for this post:
trcanberra8.56pm
Reviewers
29 August 2013
Offline ^^ Plus I’m not convinced we should criticise the referee for following the rules no matter how many other referees in the tournament haven’t.
==> trcanberra and hongkonglady - Together even when not (married for those not in the know!) <==
2.29am
Reviewers
29 August 2013
Offline So I “might” have a new place to live sorted out.
We are in negotiations over the amount of the rent and my referees are apparently still being checked.
I was supposed to find out today (see “Pet Peeves”) if my application to rent has been approved – but it’s 6.29 and counting – hopefully some good news tomorrow – as much as being royally ripped off for outrageous rent can be considered good news 🙂
==> trcanberra and hongkonglady - Together even when not (married for those not in the know!) <==
10.41am
8 February 2014
Offline Just wanted to check in, we’ve been together 48 hours and it’s far more than we even anticipated. Love is so incredible.
One of the things that’s great is that songs that I’ve known and loved for years suddenly mean so much more or something different or I understand them. For example: It’s All Too Much – I never cared much for this, didn’t pay attention to the lyrics, thought it was about an acid trip (the title somewhat describes that feeling). Suddenly this is one of the greatest songs ever written!
“All my little plans and schemes,
Lost like some forgotten dreams,
Seems that all I really was doing
Was waiting for you…
Thought I’d been in love before, [about a dozen times]
But in my heart, I wanted more.
Seems like all I really was doing
Was waiting for you.
It’s Real Love …”
Going to go into Seattle and up the space needle today, check out one of those stores that sells stuff that’s legal in Washington, and go nationwide tomorrow (4000 km to home 🙂
@trcanberra and @HongKongLady, I truly hope you have what we have found. The world is a totally different place.
The following people thank Matt Busby for this post:
Ahhh Girl, trcanberra, Beatlebug, Zig, sigh butterfly, HongKongLady1.45pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Offline World Rugby say the ref got it wrong to award Australia the penalty that led to them beating Scotland on Sunday.
A World Rugby statement read: “The match official selection committee confirms that Joubert applied World Rugby law 11.7 penalising Scotland’s Jon Welsh, who had played the ball following a knock-on by a team-mate, resulting in an offside.
“On review of all available angles, it is clear that after the knock-on, the ball was touched by Australia’s Nick Phipps and law 11.3(c) states that a player can be put on-side by an opponent who intentionally plays the ball.”
When’s the replay?
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
1.47pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Offline Wigwam said
I think that’s good self-advice MMM……….Although I still haven’t gotten over Maradona’s ‘Hand of God ‘! That was more than a refereeing mistake it was cynical blatant game changing cheating……….Still warmly remembered in Scotland by-the-way.
I think trcanberra is pointing out that the Ref, (especially true in Rugby) is often the key figure in any sport. They get things wrong……sometimes almost tragically so……..All countries suffer, and in that sense it will equal out. But it doesn’t help to carp. I was quite proud with how the England football team dealt with and accepted Lampard’s disallowed goal that crossed the line against Germany. They got on with the game without any histrionics ………
I think you can be proud of your team too………They behaved with the same discipline.
Thank god this Ref wasn’t English or we’d never have heard the end of it.
As it is take solace from your performance. Scotland were brilliant last night.
True. The English media still moan about it tho at any opportunity.
Maradonna is a legend in Scotland. Just about makes up for the ball never being over the line against West Germany in 1966.
Actually, no it doesnt.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
3.24pm
Reviewers
29 August 2013
Offline “Just wanted to check in, we’ve been together 48 hours and it’s far more than we even anticipated.”
Great to hear @Matt Busby, trust everything continues on track for the two of you.
The following people thank trcanberra for this post:
Matt Busby==> trcanberra and hongkonglady - Together even when not (married for those not in the know!) <==
4.04pm
Moderators
15 February 2015
Offline
Wigwam howled
Nice name the ‘Six-pence Pub’……….If I had a pub in the states I’d call it ‘The Thrupp’ny Bits’……….Sort of a ‘Hooter’s theme.
It’s a nice pub. Looks, feels, smells, tastes like it was built in London and transplanted in the States.
Shame about Martin.
It’s got a new set of strings now– about time for a change anyway.
My dad needled me once about ‘strumming us out of house and home’ but it’s cheaper than cigarrettes and less harmful to one’s health… all in all not a bad addiction. 
natureaker chirped
Gosh, I hate that movie
So does Little Girl.
The following people thank Beatlebug for this post:
Wigwam([{BRACKETS!}])
New to Forumpool? You can introduce yourself here.
If you love The Beatles Bible, and you have adblock, don't forget to white-list this site! 
5.51pm
17 October 2013
Offline meanmistermustard said
Wigwam said
I think that’s good self-advice MMM……….Although I still haven’t gotten over Maradona’s ‘Hand of God ‘! That was more than a refereeing mistake it was cynical blatant game changing cheating……….Still warmly remembered in Scotland by-the-way.
I think trcanberra is pointing out that the Ref, (especially true in Rugby) is often the key figure in any sport. They get things wrong……sometimes almost tragically so……..All countries suffer, and in that sense it will equal out. But it doesn’t help to carp. I was quite proud with how the England football team dealt with and accepted Lampard’s disallowed goal that crossed the line against Germany. They got on with the game without any histrionics ………
I think you can be proud of your team too………They behaved with the same discipline.
Thank god this Ref wasn’t English or we’d never have heard the end of it.
As it is take solace from your performance. Scotland were brilliant last night.
True. The English media still moan about it tho at any opportunity.
Maradonna is a legend in Scotland. Just about makes up for the ball never being over the line against West Germany in 1966.
Actually, no it doesnt.
I once made a Scotsman pay in embarrassment and humiliation for exactly that sort of attitude……..I saw it as a comeuppance, he deserved it and I’ve never regretted doing it.
Mistakes happen in sport……..Players drop balls…….score own goals…….refs get it wrong. But cheats and those that condone cheating I can’t tolerate.
6.04pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Offline I cant stand cheats but the double standards held by most in the media and most sets of fans is incredulous. Even in the English Premier League there is a habit of defending the English players if they dive by looking for the slightest possible act of contact yet slate the foreigners if they do it. It happens in every sport tho some deal with it far more harshly. It was refreshing in the rugby that when, i think it was a Scottish player actually, went looking for a foul (so cheated i being blunt) was told by the ref immediately that they had spotted it and if he did it again he’d be off the pitch within milliseconds.
To be honest the Madonna love-in is more to do with the fact it was against England and we treat it as a joke and a way of riling them. Its happened a few times when a Scottish player has play-acted/cheated he’s been castigated for it by the supporters.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
7.20pm
17 October 2013
Offline A large proportion of the moaning English media is Scottish……..
I just read the Guardian report on Joubert…like the rest of the English media they are discussing, (moaning about) the penalty decision that cost Scotland so dearly, but that’s OK with you I gather……It’s news after all, a natural talking point and easy headlines……You were hard done by and you will hold a grudge…but you only seem to see press accounts through your own set of ingrained anti English bias. It’s fine when the moaning is in Scotland’s defence…….Detestable if it can be seen in anyway as mitigating an England defeat.
Ask yourself what should they write when England are doing well?
What should they write when England get thrashed?
What should they write when when a decision goes badly against England?
The response of the English press in those circumstances and the ……Scottish…….Australian…….American…….Russian……..Chinese……. are all basically the same. The stereotypes you ascribe to the English press are true of them all.
English sport’s harshest critics in my biased no doubt, but lengthy experience……..are the English press and Scots in that order.
But finally you can’t say you hate cheats and then laude Maradona even under the so-called justification of anti-English feelings.
Anyway……On a lighter note there is going to be announced a play-off for 5th place…….It’s called the 6 Nations.
5.04am
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Offline Anti-English biased?!! You’re having a laugh.
I’m going to leave it here.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
5 Guest(s)