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17 June 2015
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As some of you know I am a BIG fan of Neil Young so I found it rather amusing that the big news from Donald Trump’s presidential campaign launch was him being chided by Neil for using Rockin’ In The Free World without permission.

Oh, and also that Donald apparently thinks it is a song lauding the free market when of course it is the exact opposite. I guess it will join with Born In The USA as being completely misunderstood by right-wing US politicians, some of whom seem to have more money than intelligence.

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Is America looking to follow Britain in having a complete buffoon in charge – the UK in 5 or 10 years no doubt having Boris Johnson as PM (god save humanity if that happens)?

Donald Trump!! I’d rather listen to his hair piece over him. 

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

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Is America looking to follow Britain in having a complete buffoon in charge – the UK in 5 or 10 years no doubt having Boris Johnson as PM (god save humanity if that happens)?

Donald Trump!! I’d rather listen to his hair piece over him. 

I like Boris he can say Non PC things without scaring the horses.

For Americans who don’t know him…(He was born in New York)……Here’s a taste of his style as mayor of London accepting the Olympic Flag would be coming in 2012.

 

It’s funny……..And er educational.

 

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He might be funny and say non-PC stuff but the idea he could be Prime Minister is scary.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

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Politics is just show business for ugly people………The civil service keep them all in check…..don’t worry ! 

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meanmistermustard said
Is America looking to follow Britain in having a complete buffoon in charge – the UK in 5 or 10 years no doubt having Boris Johnson as PM (god save humanity if that happens)?

Donald Trump!! I’d rather listen to his hair piece over him. 

Well – they already had Reagan so it wouldn’t be unusual …

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Boris is in the news today for shocking a taxi driver with his profanities………

 

I ask you!!

The taxi driver was giving Boris verbal and he got it back…..Good on Boris….

Never someone to duck a confrontation…….I think he’d make an inspiring war-time leader…….They shall not pass.

 

PS He just happens to be crap at soccer.

 

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That tackle is immense. I’ve seen far worse tackles in football; he got the ball first and his impetus simply carried him into his opponent.

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meanmistermustard said
That tackle is immense. I’ve seen far worse tackles in football; he got the ball first and his impetus simply carried him into his opponent.

I thought it was more of a collision with the ball….and then with the other two for good measure!!!

 

I’m not sure he would be a great leader but I like him………And the ‘politicians I like list’ is a very short one.

 

Interestingly did you know that the word idiot was once the term for everyone who wasn’t a politician.

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http://i1151.photobucket.com/a…..swktyi.jpg

Now, THAT’s funny.

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Is America looking to follow Britain in having a complete buffoon in charge – the UK in 5 or 10 years no doubt having Boris Johnson as PM (god save humanity if that happens)?

Donald Trump!! I’d rather listen to his hair piece over him. 

Eh, he’s a buffoon who has no hope of being elected and he knows it. Everything Donald Trump does is to create publicity for Donald Trump.

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I’ll never understand those who argue nothing, no loss of freedom, is worth gun control… Let’s all applaud the freedom to slaughter innocent people at a Bible Studies Class. Yay! More American mass murder with legal weapons… Sorry, but it tires me out… As someone said in 1980, “CONTROL YOUR DAMN GUNS…” or else we WILL see parts of your society as monsters… Sorry, it’s been said before and will be said again… And I know many there find it as uncomfortable as I do here…

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ahdn_paul_06 If we get rid of guns, we take guns from otherwise law abiding citizens who will not relinquish their guns thus their would be a spike in crime after the law is passed. Their is a a black market for guns in the U.S so that would get a boom and criminals can get guns from their. Plus it would take a bit out of the economy since the government wouldn’t be able to get taxes off gun sales.

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People are either law abiding or not, you can’t have it one way or the other. My country bans marijuana, I disagree and break that law occasionally, my country has firearms laws, I never see a reason to challenge them because… hey, we don’t really do guns!

I see very few gunowners who are now members of state militias, which is really what the amendment is about. People always ignore that bit about the militia though. Bet this latest … would’ve been found not fit if there had been any test bar Happy 21st! Two months later he’s slaughtering, there’s got to be something wrong with that… It happens a lot in America, but rarely in the UK… Don’t you have to ask about the differences. When was the last time five civilians were shot in the UK, I don’t know… I know it just happened in America… Sorry… not a society I’d want to claim as mine…

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^ I think part of the issue is that virtually any psycho can get hold of a gun so easily. Bring in more stringent checks, make people take an exam. Heck, we test people before we let them drive around on the roads running down innocents – so we should be at least as cautious about letting them run around with firearms gunning down innocent civilians.

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^ I think part of the issue is that virtually any psycho can get hold of a gun so easily. Bring in more stringent checks, make people take an exam. Heck, we test people before we let them drive around on the roads running down innocents – so we should be at least as cautious about letting them run around with firearms gunning down innocent civilians.

There are tests and background checks before you can legally get a gun. It’s not like any one can just get a gun Willy nilly.

Background checks don’t stop people from illegally getting a gun.

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I was going to keep away from this completely….but the busybody in me sometimes takes over.

 

I think it’s worth pointing out that non-Americans underestimate the depth of feelings in the US regarding gun-ownership and the 2nd Amendment.

They say never discuss politics or religion……….It’s true….. I’d argue that any, even oblique criticism of ‘The American Constitution’ does both, such is the intensity, the almost religious regard felt for the work of The Founding Fathers……(though just one of them did the heavy lifting).

For non Americans it’s a no brainer……More gun-control would be better than doing nothing. ‘

‘Cars kill too’ state the NRA “We don’t ban cars”……Non Americans will answer, ‘But we have laws and controls to minimize those road accidents’

Unfortunately the NRA is always able to touch a nerve with, ‘It’s an American’s right to bear arms…. the Founding Fathers have enshrined it in our Constitution to protect us all from tyrants…….We don’t want George III coming back’…

….And, ‘Bad people will always find a way to get hold of guns, gun control would only keep guns out of the hands of the good guys. ……When a gunman enters your house and the police are only 5 mins away……that’s 5 mins too long.’

There’s now a suggestion that if a law had not been passed banning concealed guns in churches those nine lives could have been saved…..There’s a logic to all this.

Being honest if lived in some American cities…(most of America is relatively safe) I’d want a gun myself. 

All I can say is that very few people change sides in the gun argument. Quite the opposite positions are dug in and fortified. It will be a waste of breath and more divisive here than ‘you know who’ and that would be a shame for our pretty harmonious BB community.

When John Lennon used a phrase from an American gun magazine, ‘Happiness Is A Warm Gun ‘….. i.e.  just fired, he was pointing out the outrageous nature of that statement which was obviously taken as a truth by it’s intended audience.

Perhaps the irony that it depends on who’s holding the gun continues to elude them

It didn’t make Mark Chapman happy for long…….. 

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They say never discuss politics or religion……….It’s true….. I’d argue that any, even oblique criticism of ‘The American Constitution’ does both, such is the intensity, the almost religious regard felt for the work of The Founding Fathers……(though just one of them did the heavy lifting).

 

I agree about the Constitution. Anything that is in the constitution stays in there. That is why they had to create another ammendment (21st) to negate prohibition (18th amendment).

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trcanberra said
^ I think part of the issue is that virtually any psycho can get hold of a gun so easily. Bring in more stringent checks, make people take an exam. Heck, we test people before we let them drive around on the roads running down innocents – so we should be at least as cautious about letting them run around with firearms gunning down innocent civilians.

There are tests and background checks before you can legally get a gun. It’s not like any one can just get a gun Willy nilly.

Background checks don’t stop people from illegally getting a gun.

Sounds like the tests in many states are hardly worth having. You need tough uniform tests for it to work, and tough penalties for owning illegal guns. It takes times, but it works – we did that here after a nasty massacre in Tasmania. Of course, the odd illegal weapon will still surface – that doesn’t invalidate the argument – that would be like saying lets not have driving tests because people still have traffic accidents or go drunk-driving.

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