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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
6 January 2021
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But isn’t it also a case of stoking up a crowd to act as they did? As Joe Biden has said more than once, “The words of a President matter.”

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6 January 2021
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Good point. However, we can’t forget that it was his supporters who decided to storm the capitol building and we need to make sure that those supporters also take the blame.

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6 January 2021
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If a leader outside a building is shouting “no surrender “and all the followers then storm it, of course the leader gets a lot of the blame for it. Just because he doesn’t open the door doesn’t mean he’s excused.

This was going to happen as Trump has been stoking up tensions and calls to arms since the election was called. It’s not about Republican, American, democracy or anything else. It’s about Trump and his ego not willing to come concede. He’s now turned on Pence!!

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6 January 2021
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Twitter have blocked Trump tweeting for 12 hours!! This is insane. 

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6 January 2021
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All I gotta says I dont want to hear anybody from the right say they don’t riot or cry. I don’t want to hear that people of color are treated fairly particularly when it comes to the government and riots. This is ridiculous!

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6 January 2021
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American network CBS is reporting that members of Trump’s cabinet are discussing invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office following the events of today in Washington. This could be the most ignoble end to a presidency in American history.

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6 January 2021
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My concern is that removing Trump prematurely might incite MORE violence among Trump supporters, so it’s probably best to let him have his final 2 weeks, then have the highest possible amount of security at inauguration to prevent another raid. After that, we’ll have to vote in the 2024 Republican primaries to make sure Trump loses the nomination.

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6 January 2021
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He could also still be impeached after his Presidency has ended, @Dark Overlord, which would bar Trump from standing for public office again. We do seem to be seeing the Republican party largely turning on him over his encouragement of today’s events.

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7 January 2021
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Four deaths due to the supporters of Trump storming the building.

There will need to be a massive security operation at the inauguration as this isn’t over. The only person who might be able to stop further protests is Trump but I cannot see it happening. Either he is stirring all this up deliberately out of selfish interests and not caring who gets caught up in it or he is so far gone in believing the lies of fraud etc there is almost no hope. 

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7 January 2021
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After one of the most shocking days in the history of American democracy, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been confirmed as President and Vice-President Elect.

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7 January 2021
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Twitter have blocked Trump tweeting for 12 hours!! This is insane.

Facebook and Instagram have blocked his accounts “indefinitely”, saying they will not unblock until after 20 January at the earliest.

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7 January 2021
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BREAKING NEWS: Twitter has permanently suspended Donald Trump’s account in the last half-hour for fear he may incite violence.

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WOW! The leader of the free world permanently banned from Twitter. Just WOW!

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While i’m fine with Twitter banning Trump (after all, they’re a private company and Trump’s rhetoric has been proven to incite violence), i object to WHY they banned him.

According to the article, the post that convinced Twitter to ban Trump permanently is him simply stating that he won’t attend the inauguration. Not just does Biden agree with this statement but this is just Trump confirming a rumor, there’s nothing in the post that suggests that Trump will continue to be president after the 20th.

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8 January 2021
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But when they lifted their 12-hour suspension, @Dark Overlord, they did warn him that one more infringement would get him a permanent ban, and more than one of his posts today did that, including his video message that directly contradicted his more conciliatory “written-for-him” speech of a few hours earlier.

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8 January 2021
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Fair enough. However, it seems weird that they picked a tweet Biden agrees with instead of the other tweet where he says “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”, which is far more likely to incite violence.

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9 January 2021
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Twitter’s explanation for why Trump was banned.

 

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After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence. 

In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. Our public interest framework exists to enable the public to hear from elected officials and world leaders directly. It is built on a principle that the people have a right to hold power to account in the open. 

However, we made it clear going back years that these accounts are not above our rules entirely and cannot use Twitter to incite violence, among other things. We will continue to be transparent around our policies and their enforcement. 

The below is a comprehensive analysis of our policy enforcement approach in this case.

 

Overview

On January 8, 2021, President Donald J. Trump tweeted:

“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

Shortly thereafter, the President tweeted:

“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”

Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States, and an uptick in the global conversation in regards to the people who violently stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, these two Tweets must be read in the context of broader events in the country and the ways in which the President’s statements can be mobilized by different audiences, including to incite violence, as well as in the context of the pattern of behavior from this account in recent weeks. After assessing the language in these Tweets against our Glorification of Violence policy, we have determined that these Tweets are in violation of the Glorification of Violence Policy and the user @realDonaldTrump should be immediately permanently suspended from the service.

Assessment

We assessed the two Tweets referenced above under our Glorification of Violence policy, which aims to prevent the glorification of violence that could inspire others to replicate violent acts and determined that they were highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

This determination is based on a number of factors, including:

  • President Trump’s statement that he will not be attending the Inauguration is being received by a number of his supporters as further confirmation that the election was not legitimate and is seen as him disavowing his previous claim made via two Tweets (1, 2) by his Deputy Chief of Staff, Dan Scavino, that there would be an “orderly transition” on January 20th.
  • The second Tweet may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a “safe” target, as he will not be attending. 
  • The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol.
  • The mention of his supporters having a “GIANT VOICE long into the future” and that “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” is being interpreted as further indication that President Trump does not plan to facilitate an “orderly transition” and instead that he plans to continue to support, empower, and shield those who believe he won the election. 
  • Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021. 

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9 January 2021
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Trump is an expert on saying something that looks good but is tied to other comments that when taken all together take on an entirely different meaning. He’s been doing this for decades. 

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DLive, a far-right Twitch alternative, has banned several notable users (most notably Nick Fuentes and Tim “Baked Alaska” Gionet) due to inciting violence, with the former advocating that we kill those who vote to confirm Biden’s victory and the latter streaming himself inside the Capitol (while having COVID and ignoring all safety guidelines BTW) and calling for a civil war.

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So a site for Nazis banned a coupla of their famous Nazis, so what? F**k the lot of them.

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