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Have to completely disagree, @Ahhh Girl.

I didn’t like the post(s) in question. I would not have made either. Especially after I had made it completely clear I was joking about the peacock even had people not followed the link I’d made to where I spoke about a peacock.

I would suggest that one of the major problems around the discussion of meat-eating and animal welfare is to do with meat eaters increasingly wanting to disguise where it comes from.

Had I a live peacock to deal with, I’d know exactly what to do.

My next-door neighbour kept chickens when I was a child, and I often helped preparing them, gutting my first bird at the age of eight, and finding myself at the discovery of an egg mid-formed.

I am not pretending this stuff is always pleasant.

However, to suggest the conversation I started should have been held by PM is to suggest I would/should have known it would result in the post(s) that people object to.

If no part of vegetarianism is not to discussed, and I am sure that no vegetable eater would want to ban any such discussion, then why should any meat-eater be objected to for publicly having a tongue-in-cheek reference to meat farming?

If that’s honestly how he gets his meat, and thinks it should be done by everyone that way, we’d have problems.

As I said previously, not the kind of conversation I believe @Joe would ban, or ask to be moved to PM – and I suggest this knowing Joe is a vegetarian.

Discussing how animals are, and could be killed, along with the rights and wrongs, from my own point of view is something never to not be openly discussed…

How can you argue that one side of the debate should be restricted to private conversation only…

The brutality of the worst examples are only exposed by the open discussion, and objections to, the worst examples.

How do we change the worst if we don’t publicly voice it, but rather asked for it to be spoken of behind closed curtains.

You don’t change anything by having like-minded conversations with people in private who agree, change comes from talking about things loudly in public…

I have been somebody who, as some here know, has bought up the idea of advisories on certain threads, and seen how defeating that is…

Surely, for vegetarians, a meat-eater revealing an obscene method of obtaining meat is all gist tp their meal…

Sometimes you may find things you don’t want to read, but I’d say don’t read rather then decide if I should be allowed to when we are speaking about subjects that are in no way questionable…

I don’t like the view above that I think is the real problem one, and that method of animal butchery would see the individual jailed in the UK… But isn’t that the point? Someone being allowed to say something, suggest a course of action, only to have their fellows object…

How do people grow if all the details of life they’d rather not know about are restricted to PM?

Mmmmmmmmmmm mashed carrots (yes I do eat food fit for a toddler- deal with it!).

This has been, until now, a thread in which food has been discussed.

No discussion in this thread, that I can recall, has been shut down.

So, meat eaters cannot discuss the way in which their food – at its best and worst – is produced in the food thread?

Much as I love @Ahhh Girl, I think you are wrong?

One person is over 2000 posts makes a dodgy comment, which has been challenged, and you shut down the conversation.

The original objection asked for such comments to be PM-only. You may not have, but you said you agreed with the original objector.

There is a lot of talk about food prep in this thread, including how to handle meat? Is animal butchery now excluded from this thread, although it has been discussed in this thread before?

There was a post in the conversation I was very uncomfortable with, a post that rightly caused reaction, but you deal with that post and don’t damn the whole of an obviously jokey conversation.

Move or delete as you wish, AG, suspend my posting rights, but I’m saying this in this thread.

You’re saying a discussion about food doesn’t belong in the thread about food.

I did not like the post objected to, had I been a mod I might have felt obligated to privately point out to the poster that good chance of offending people and could they please not.

I think we should all know where our food comes from, while condemning cruel treatment of animals, as happened in this example.

Important as I think this is, especially for those of us who eat meat, and since I’ll happily pay a bit more for good welfare meat, I am going to talk much more in this thread about the journey to the plate unless @Joe requests I don’t.

You need to be able to talk honestly about food. This is the food thread (unless I’ve been moved again!). One thing about talking about food is that you should be able to come up with your own food preparation techniques and tips, which includes butchery, and shouldn’t feel restricted by an objection to Sam Peckinpah’s Billy the Kid blasting chicken heads off.

Billy the Kid’s form of butchery, I advise against.

How can you talk about what’s good in a subject without what’s worst creeping in? And if you say condemning worst practice belongs somewhere else, somewhere that those who look only for best practice would never see it, I humbly have to disagree.

Food is discussed in this thread. Otherwise there would be no post in this thread that said anything but “I am eating right now…”

Every other post would be out of context. Yet, about 3/4 are discussion of what somebody ate, many of which respond to and discuss meat and meat prep…

Again, respond to a distasteful post and that poster, but animal butchery done at it’s best, and shown up at its worst, should always be allowed in this food thread. At least, IMO…

Hell, @William Shears Campbell! I tried ending it when I said I’m allergic to peanuts and Tiddles, my incontinent arthritic pet cat of 30 years, was actually a stuffed toy…

@Joe  said
Please don’t turn this into another inward-looking what-should-this-topic-be-for topic. The purpose is very clear. @Ahhh Girl tried to get it back on target, and was ignored, which isn’t helpful.

I suggest this thread is read back through. There is much discussion about the rights and wrongs along the path it’s wended up to here.

It only becomes “another inward-looking what-should-this-topic-be-for topic” if mods start dictating what it isn’t for. If this thread is meant to stick to its title, then I’m sorry, because of the 2000+ posts, I’d suggest well less than half say what someone is eating, while the rest is discussing, and asking for – and giving – tips and advice… or else salivating…