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Rubber Soul: USA version vs. UK version
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^yeah, I agree. You can tell by how it sounds, it isn’t a real goof, just a tape error as you said.

I still prefer the UK version…I know the US version is said to have a “folk rock” sound and have been super influential on that movement in the US, but to me it’s artificial because of how Capitol put it together and it certainly wasn’t what the Beatles intended. The real LP, the UK version, has more of an early psychedelic feel to it, which is how I like it stuart-sutcliffe

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Agree! I love my dad’s old copy of the US version he gave to me, but I wish I had a UK as well. The songs that are missing are my favorites.

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I still prefer the UK version…I know the US version is said to have a “folk rock” sound and have been super influential on that movement in the US, but to me it’s artificial because of how Capitol put it together and it certainly wasn’t what the Beatles intended. The real LP, the UK version, has more of an early psychedelic feel to it, which is how I like it stuart-sutcliffe

 

Exactly.  Not sure what the deal of people wanting to collect Capital albums for that very reason.  Unless it’s the Butcher Album for it’s raretie, other than that every other Capital album has been sold by the millions.  Hardly a collectible.

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The UK version is much better. It is how the band wanted people to hear their music.

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Everyone who hasn’t heard the Capitol version straight through with the false start included needs to do so before they claim the UK version is better…I especially have a problem with the logic that it is “better because that’s the way the Beatles intended it,” because it’s NOT better, and that doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with my ears. The Capitol version is better (in my opinion). I heard the UK version many times berfore I heard the US version, and it never quite clicked for me. I didn’t really love it until I heard the Capitol version.

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I grew up on the Capitol version, and I definitely prefer it. I love the songs left off of it, but I prefer how the US Rubber Soul runs or flows. The standard/UK version, seems more scattered to me and less cohesive, making it feel disconnected & confusing. One reason for this is something I’ve always noticed about the US version, but I never hear anyone point out, so I’m guessing it’s not as obvious as I thought it was. Basically, each track number on one side of the Capitol version, seems to relate to the song with the same track number on the opposite side of the record —

 

Track – 1st Side / 2nd Side

#1 – I’ve Just Seen A Face / It’s Only Love …about new love (appropriate for 1st song on each side!), from two points of view.

#2 – Norwegian Wood / Girl …about visiting someone. 1st about visiting a girl, and the 2nd about a girl visiting.

#3 – You Won’t See Me / I’m Looking Through You …about sight, specifically invisibility. 1st about NOT seeing, and the 2nd about seeing THROUGH.

#4 – Think For Yourself / In My Life …about inner thoughts and emotions. 1st saying THINK! & I don’t like you, and 2nd saying I am thinking and feeling and miss you.

#5 – The Word / Wait …about giving up & not giving up. 1st about giving up past ways and turning to love, and the 2nd about not to giving up on love

#6 – Michelle / Run For Your Life …about obsession (for lack of a better word). 1st about good side of obsession, and the 2nd about the dark side of obsession

 

This is how I hear the Capitol version of Rubber Soul . The song pairings are so clear to me. So this is really one time where Capitol butchered a Beatles album in a way I actually like. I’d even go as far as to say that the US version of Rubber Soul appears to be a concept album because of this. If this was a conscious decision by someone at Capitol, then I’m surprised it’s never been brought up as a marketing tidbit or anything. If it wasn’t on purpose (and it probably wasn’t), then it’s one heck of a beautiful accident. The decision of which songs to remove & which songs to add, would have to be JUST RIGHT to come up with a tracklist working like this.

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I prefer the UK version, the US one leaves out Drive My Car and Nowhere Man , two of my favorite songs on the album and replaces them with songs from Help !, Capitol should’ve just left The Beatles albums alone.

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I grew up on the Capitol version, and I definitely prefer it. I love the songs left off of it, but I prefer how the US Rubber Soul runs or flows. The standard/UK version, seems more scattered to me and less cohesive, making it feel disconnected & confusing. One reason for this is something I’ve always noticed about the US version, but I never hear anyone point out, so I’m guessing it’s not as obvious as I thought it was. Basically, each track number on one side of the Capitol version, seems to relate to the song with the same track number on the opposite side of the record —

 

Track – 1st Side / 2nd Side

#1 – I’ve Just Seen A Face / It’s Only Love …about new love (appropriate for 1st song on each side!), from two points of view.

#2 – Norwegian Wood / Girl …about visiting someone. 1st about visiting a girl, and the 2nd about a girl visiting.

#3 – You Won’t See Me / I’m Looking Through You …about sight, specifically invisibility. 1st about NOT seeing, and the 2nd about seeing THROUGH.

#4 – Think For Yourself / In My Life …about inner thoughts and emotions. 1st saying THINK! & I don’t like you, and 2nd saying I am thinking and feeling and miss you.

#5 – The Word / Wait …about giving up & not giving up. 1st about giving up past ways and turning to love, and the 2nd about not to giving up on love

#6 – Michelle / Run For Your Life …about obsession (for lack of a better word). 1st about good side of obsession, and the 2nd about the dark side of obsession

 

This is how I hear the Capitol version of Rubber Soul . The song pairings are so clear to me. So this is really one time where Capitol butchered a Beatles album in a way I actually like. I’d even go as far as to say that the US version of Rubber Soul appears to be a concept album because of this. If this was a conscious decision by someone at Capitol, then I’m surprised it’s never been brought up as a marketing tidbit or anything. If it wasn’t on purpose (and it probably wasn’t), then it’s one heck of a beautiful accident. The decision of which songs to remove & which songs to add, would have to be JUST RIGHT to come up with a tracklist working like this.  

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I prefer the U.S. version too. The only Beatles albums that I prefer the American versions are Rubber Soul  and Magical Mystery Tour  .

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U.S. version must, definitely, have something when you read things like this about it:
Rubber Soul is probably the greatest record ever.”
“every song went together like no album ever made before”
“a whole album where everything flows together and everything works”

That’s what Brian Wilson thought about the Capitol version.

I gave it a listen sometime ago but i’m so used to the UK running order that it didn’t said too much to me, anyways.

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@Necko said
I prefer the U.S. version too. The only Beatles albums that I prefer the American versions are Rubber Soul  and Magical Mystery Tour  .  

The US MMT is really the only version of MMT, unless you count the EP. If that’s the case then I too prefer the LP over the EP, because the LP has 5 more songs.

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I’m surprised so many people love the US version to the UK version of Rubber Soul . Besides Capitol’s Revolver , I think Capitol’s Rubber Soul is the worst botching of a Beatles album they’ve done.

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I’ve grown up with the UK Rubber Soul , so I favor it. However, recently I’ve purchased a second hand copy of the US version on vinyl. I don’t mind it since it still keeps pretty true to the UK version. I like the new side openers, although I do miss the tracks that Capitol removed.

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Has anyone tried to make a hybrid version of both albums. It’d be like the US Rubber Soul with Nowhere Man and If I Needed Someone added or something very similar, you’d get the extra Help ! tracks and lack of What Goes On from the US album with 2 tracks left out from the UK version.

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I grew up with the Beatles on the 1980’s CDs, and I didn’t even know anything about the US discography and the US version of Rubber Soul . Now I have both the UK and the US version on vinyl. I prefer the UK version of Rubber Soul and the other original Beatles albums. I think that the UK version of Rubber Soul was like the Beatles themselves wanted it to be. 

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The U.S. one had a far bigger influence on the cultural trajectory of Rock evolving toward being seen as “Art” from the mid-’60s onward (since more people, naturally, were exposed to hearing it in a bigger market) and, of course; the Brian Wilson-connected, Capitol R.S. anecdote of: (it) inspiring a member within a band to produce their own group’s actual material themselves…would have been a concept entirely brand new to what, pre-1966/’67, was music once considered commercially disposable just a year before.

What did the British music scene, by contrast, become in the immediate period after the initial explosion of Beatlemania(?).  It (literally) became a White-washed, pseudo-Blues Revival ripoff.  Of British artists: only the Who, Stones, and Kinks continued to develop their craft during the second-part of the decade to any degree of international originality (until the likes of Bowie and Elton broke big in the U.S. in ’72).  The geography of the music scene after the timeframe of R.S.’s release was about to abandon the whole “Carnaby St. thing” and, make its way 5000 miles west to San Francisco.  

The Beatles had more of an impact in the States by being a factor of societal change than; people getting hung-up on thinking album configurations necessarily represented some grand idea.  By 1968, though, what the ‘Plane or Dead or Big Brother were making in San Francisco had already confined stuff from three years’ earlier to the “oldies” bin.

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The U.S. one had a far bigger influence on the cultural trajectory of Rock evolving toward being seen as “Art” from the mid-’60s onward (since more people, naturally, were exposed to hearing it in a bigger market) and, of course; the Brian Wilson-connected, Capitol R.S. anecdote of: (it) inspiring a member within a band to producetheir own group’s actual material themselves…would have been a concept entirely brand new to what, pre-1966/’67, was music once considered commercially disposable just a year before.

While it’s most likely that Capitol’s Rubber Soul influenced Pet Sounds, i don’t think it’s fair to suggest that an album that was tinkered with by the record company can also be the album that convinced bands to create albums that are cohesive pieces of art that are meant to be listened to as a whole.

What did the British music scene, by contrast, become in the immediate period after the initial explosion of Beatlemania(?).  It (literally) became a White-washed, pseudo-Blues Revival ripoff.  Of British artists: only the Who, Stones, and Kinks continued to develop their craft during the second-part of the decade to any degree of international originality (until the likes of Bowie and Elton broke big in the U.S. in ’72).  The geography of the music scene after the timeframe of R.S.’s release was about to abandon the whole “Carnaby St. thing” and, make its way 5000 miles west to San Francisco.

The UK Rubber Soul heavily influenced The Rolling Stones Aftermath.

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I prefer the UK version, but the US version is interesting and features two of the best songs from Help ! which (pun intended) helps

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U.S. version must, definitely, have something when you read things like this about it:

Rubber Soul is probably the greatest record ever.”

“every song went together like no album ever made before”

“a whole album where everything flows together and everything works”

That’s what Brian Wilson thought about the Capitol version.

  

this is a good point too

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 I grew up mostly listening to The Beatles on the radio, random compilations/albums of vinyl, and later on CDs. The CDs seemed to go with UK versions formats; furthermore, most people seem to recommend the UK versions. So, when I started collecting vinyl I went with the UK versions instead of US. My boyfriend owns the US version while I own a UK remastered of Rubber Soul . I decided to listen  to the US to see how I like and it’s interesting. I love the folk take. Strangely enough, I think What Goes On would have fit on here. I do miss Drive My Car , If I Needed Someone , and Nowhere Man from the UK. For me I think both are great and I think they could suit whatever mood you’re in. 

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