9.45pm
8 August 2019
PLEASE PLEASE ME (1963) AVERAGED RANK
This is a copy paste:
I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating list of every post averaged in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case Please Please Me . I clarify my process and rules below.
1 – I Saw Her Standing There (561 points)
2 – Twist and Shout (551 points)
3 – Please Please Me (511 points)
4 – Anna (Go to Him) (372 points)
5 – There’s a Place (323 points)
6 – Love Me Do (301 points)
7 – Misery (295 points)
8 – Baby It’s You (291 points)
9 – Boys (264 points)
10 – Do You Want to Know a Secret (263 points)
11 – Ask Me Why (254 points)
12 – P.S. I Love You (229 points)
13 – Chains (194 points)
14 – A Taste Of Honey (116 points)
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Averaging process and rules:
A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 13) and as the list progresses into the “worst” tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 14 Please Please Me songs ranked.
IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.
Particular cases:
-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there’s a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don’t count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn’t have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.
-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs “official” tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don’t get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.
-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that “that would exactly be [their] ranking” and don’t post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.
-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).
-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, “1” universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it’s the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.
-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn’t that way. So I decided I’ll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I’ll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I’ll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones’ ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day’s Night , Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine ‘s Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.
-NO. 7- If there are “ties” in someone’s ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won’t represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it’s more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it’s mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.
-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are “tied” then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there’s a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I’ll just give more points to the one named first.
-NO. 9- However, if there’s a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item “-NO. 7-“.
-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn’t want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion too
All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I’m sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.
IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.
Also here’s a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I’ll try edit these as well):
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the twist
2.16am
18 December 2011
In this topic I’ll take the challenge to rank every song from Please Please Me . The result of the ranking depends on melody and catchiness, and “Please Please” let me know your opinion! I will make topics like this later for the other albums.
14) A Taste Of Honey
13) P.S. I Love You
12) Misery
11) Chains
10) Anna (Go to Him)
9) There’s a Place
8) Boys
7) Love Me Do
6) Do You Want To Know A Secret
3) Ask Me Why
"Real music is made by real people playing real instruments using own creativity and skills."
9.59pm
14 January 2013
- I Saw Her Standing There ‘
- Please Please Me
- Twist And Shout
- Love Me Do
- Do You Want To Know A Secret
- Theres A Place
- P.S. I Love You
- Misery
- Boys
- Baby Its You
- Chains
- Anna (Go With Him)
- Taste of Honey
- Ask Me Why
12.07am
10 June 2013
- Theres A Place
- I Saw Her Standing There ‘
- Twist And Shout
- Anna (Go With Him)
- Misery
- Chains
- Do You Want To Know A Secret
- Baby Its You
- Boys
- Ask Me Why
- Please, Please Me
- Love Me Do
- P.S. I Love You
- Taste of Honey
"P. P. P. P. S- L. P. Winner."
3.46am
14 September 2013
6.08pm
8 August 2013
I love making lists!
5. There’s a Place
6. Boys
7. Anna (Go to Him)
8. Misery
9. P.S I Love You
10. Love Me Do
11. Chains
12. Ask Me Why
13. Do You Want To Know A Secret
14. A Taste Of Honey
8.26pm
28 January 2013
Yay lists!
14. A Taste Of Honey
13. Anna
12. Chains
11. Boys
10. Love Me Do
9. P.S. I Love You
7. Theres A Place
5. Misery
4. Do You Want To Know A Secret
1. Ask Me Why
And if you saw my love, I'll love her to.
10.38pm
Reviewers
1 November 2013
Ask Me Why seems to be very divided, huh?
My list:
4. Love Me Do
5. Anna
6. Chains
7. Boys
8. Do You Want To Know A Secret
10. P.S. I Love You
11. Misery
12. Baby It’s You
13. Ask Me Why
14. A Taste Of Honey
There You Go!
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11.53pm
2 June 2014
I can’t tell you how I enjoy all 14 but I do enjoy listening to these top 6 in my opinion on my record player. My #1 is Boys because it is sang by Ringo.
1) Boys
3) Love Me Do
4) Please, Please Me
5) Chains
6) Anna
11.34pm
1 August 2014
2. I Saw Here Standing There
3. Anna (Go To Him)
4. Misery
5. Boys
8. Ask Me Why
10. Love Me Do
11. Chains
12. Do You Want To Know A Secret
13. P.S. I Love You
14. A Taste Of Honey
1.40am
27 August 2014
4. Boys
6. Misery
7. Do You Want To Know A Secret
8. Ask Me Why
9. Love Me Do
10. Anna (Go To Him)
11. Ask Me Why
12. P.S. I Love You
13. Baby It’s You
14. A Taste Of Honey
1.44am
Reviewers
4 February 2014
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Bulldog2.36am
28 March 2014
I’m sorry, but it’s gotta start off with the famous 1-2-3-4, I Saw Her Standing There , finally it’s gotta end with Twist And Shout as we all know it was the last song they had to record that night and John had to sing it with a sore throat.
The rest is irrelevant!
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2.04am
19 September 2014
This was an amazing album. Every cut was a hit. I was just a young kid at the time but I was already accustomed to the idea that an album had two maybe three good songs on it and the rest was just filler. This was an album you could never grow tired of hearing.
But for me beginning with that count off of “a 123 faw!” And capping it off with Twist And Shout is the definition of musical joy.
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8.40am
15 May 2014
TENTATIVELY:
- PS. I Love You
- A Taste Of Honey
- Please Please Me
- I Saw Her Standing There
- Anna (Go to Him)
- There’s a Place
- Twist And Shout
- Love Me Do
- Do You Want To Know A Secret ?
SONGS THAT I’M INDIFFERENT TO: Baby It’s You , Ask Me Why , Chains , Misery , Boys
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12.52pm
23 September 2014
Nice game
That’s my chart:
- I Saw Her Standing There
- Please Please Me
- Twist And Shout
- Love Me Do
- Anna (Go With Him)
- Chains
- P.S. I Love You
- Misery
- Boys
- There’s A Place
- Taste of Honey
- Do You Want To Know A Secret
- Ask Me Why
- Baby Its You
6.12pm
8 January 2015
Although it’s mistakenly thought of as a Lennon and McCartney song, this cover has to be one of the most earth-shattering performances from a band. Twist And Shout – Lennon squeezing every breath he’s got left in his lungs, Harrison’s note perfect solo, Ringo belting the living hell out of his Ludwig kit and McCartneys bass jumping and dancing, with his final HEYYY!!! as they got to the end of the song. The tightest live performance of a song ever!!
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26 February 2015
4. Anna (Go To Him)
5. Boys
6. Do You Want To Know A Secret ?
7. Love Me Do
8. Misery
9. Chains
10. There’s A Place
11. Ask Me Why
12. A Taste Of Honey
13. Baby It’s You
14. P.S. I Love You
12.05pm
19 February 2015
4. Anna (Go To Him)
6. Boys
7. Misery
8. Chains
10. Love Me Do
11. There’s A Place
12. Do You Want To Know A Secret?
13. Ask Me Why
14. P.S. I Love You
14) Love Me Do
13) Please Please Me
12) There’s A Place
11) Misery
10) Twist And Shout
7) Boys
6) P.S I Love You
5) Anna (Go To Him)
4) Chains
3) Ask Me Why
"The nicest thing is to open the newspapers and not to find yourself in them."
-George Harrison
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