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Paul McCartneys "RAM" vs John Lennons "Imagine"
4 October 2013
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fabfouremily said
Yeah I agree with what you’ve said there, WhereArtEsteban. I can see that ‘Imagine ‘ is probably quite a hard album to listen to for some people, so they might prefer the ”lightness” of  ‘Ram ‘.  See the latter for me is just a little too fun and games.

For me, it’s not a matter of preferring the “lightness” or “fun and games” of Ram to the “difficulty” of Imagine . It’s a matter of identifying more with the way Paul creates and reveals layers of meaning. It’s about preferring implicit to explicit communication, preferring being shown to being told.

4 October 2013
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^^ You make a good point there, acmac. I never thought of it in that way. I hold my hands up to you.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8High-fives all round, then! :)

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DrBeatle-no worries! Thanx to you & all here, we ALL get to enjoy another perspective on the music we love. a-hard-days-night-john-1a-hard-days-night-paul-4
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acmac said

fabfouremily said
Yeah I agree with what you’ve said there, WhereArtEsteban. I can see that ‘Imagine ‘ is probably quite a hard album to listen to for some people, so they might prefer the ”lightness” of  ‘Ram ‘.  See the latter for me is just a little too fun and games.

For me, it’s not a matter of preferring the “lightness” or “fun and games” of Ram to the “difficulty” of Imagine . It’s a matter of identifying more with the way Paul creates and reveals layers of meaning. It’s about preferring implicit to explicit communication, preferring being shown to being told.

Not only for that, I find the music on Ram to be infinitely more enjoyable and well-written than Imagine . With John’s solo stuff, I find that he doesn’t really have any great albums start-to-finish, but a load of fantastic songs spread over all of them. Whereas Paul has some albums that are just flawless (in my opinion, at least) from beginning to end (Ram , Band On The Run , Flaming Pie to name a few)

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5 October 2013
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oh and LOVE this bit of tomfoolery

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I totally get what you said DrBeatle about the actual playing/orchestration of RAM and Paul’s other work in comparison to the other three. Paul imo turned out to be the best at using the studio in general (and directing other musicians)- plus considering that Paul produced the record as opposed to someone like Phil Specter shows Paul’s manymany talents. 

EDIT: on that note though just (heh, a pun) imagine if John Lennon had lived to make an album with Nigel Godrich (who did Paul’s “Chaos and Creation…”)

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Indeed. It’s been said in many books, but Paul was the only one who really had an interest in production the Beatles were still together, and he certainly carried that through his solo career, whereas the other 3 didn’t.

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