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7 November 2022
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I’ll take “Show Me You’re Not a Real Beatles Fan” for $300, Alex.
Although I own the vinyl album for this and it says stamped on the front it’s 1967 (probably purchased many years later), it just hit me only the other day how rich in excellent songs this album is:
Side Two:
And Side One:
Don’t care much for Flying , Blue Jay Way , or the title track (though it’s at least catchy) — but the ones I listed above are way more solidly superb than my memory of this album had it. This to my mind is clearly a serious contender among the best albums; whereas prior to my recent “epiphany” I thought it was negligible with maybe a couple of good tracks.
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5.33am
11 June 2015
Offline Due to the Side 2 singles, I was super happy to have clean album versions to replace my scratchy 45s. Also, a friendly clerk at my record store cracked open a box of MMT records and let me have one a day early. He couldn’t charge me then (or he might be fired), so I came back and paid the next day. That night I spent a few hours amusing my friends by playing the new songs over the telephone (landline of course). For a few hours I felt like a DJ on pirate radio.
In those days, if you wanted to hear a song on demand you had to pay up. 
Thus hanging around listening to each other’s record collections was a big deal.
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True – but it’s a “phony” album: a combination of songs from the MMT movie + “The Best non-album songs of the first 6 months of 1967”.
It’s half original material and half compilation, i.e., half the songs everyone already had. This was the antithesis of the what the Beatles had done up to that point: They had not included singles on their albums (She Loves You , I Want To Hold Your Hand ,…) Granted, there had been exceptions with Nowhere Man and E. Rigby, but this album takes it to a whole new level.
At the time, you were buying the album for just a couple of new good songs. Great album cover though.
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5.47am
7 November 2022
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True – but it’s a “phony” album: a combination of songs from the MMT movie + “The Best non-album songs of the first 6 months of 1967”.It’s half original material and half compilation, i.e., half the songs everyone already had. This was the antithesis of the what the Beatles had done up to that point: They had not included singles on their albums (She Loves You , I Want To Hold Your Hand ,…) Granted, there had been exceptions with Nowhere Man and E. Rigby, but this album takes it to a whole new level.
At the time, you were buying the album for just a couple of new good songs. Great album cover though.
That’s where my relative ignorance comes in — I don’t understand how this is a phony album. Which songs had already been released before, and on what other albums?
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17 December 2012
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In the UK the six songs on the 1st side, the film soundtrack, were released as a double-EP (2 7″-vinyl discs that played at 33rpm).
The EP as a format had never really taken off on the States, let alone a double-EP, and so for the American market they gave permission for the MMT songs to be released as a compilation album — with the five 1967 single-only tracks making up the 2nd side.
It is the 1967 shaped hole in the Past Masters compilation of UK non-album material, and it would have easily fitted.
It has to be remembered that The Beatles were not fans of including single tracks on albums, and that — unlike all other Beatle albums apart from Yellow Submarine album — it was not an album they went into the studio with the plan to record an album.
It is a compilation album agreed to to fit how the US market worked, rather than an album they created as an album, and wasn’t released in the UK until 1976.
When it came to the 1987 CD releases, they made more money from including the American compilation it in the “canon” as an album rather than including the tracks on the Past Masters set of non-UK album material.
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12.09pm
14 June 2016
Offline Phony album or not, that track listing is dynamite, and more than holds its own against the likes of Pepper IMO.
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3.58pm
11 June 2015
Offline I get what your saying about respecting the Beatles/Martin’s artistic intent Mr. Diamonds. It’s a similar argument made that stating a preference for US versions of the albums is disrespectful. From an intellectual standpoint this is true. From a practical standpoint (from someone who had Beatle boots on the ground), I would have preferred all the singles be placed on albums. I remember having I Want To Hold Your Hand and I Saw Her Standing There kick off the first US album being such a thrill. Even though I listened to the album 1000X it never got a scratch and still plays now. I couldn’t imagine not being able to have IWTHYH on an album until 1973 when Red/Blue came out. It’s laughable what that 45 would have looked like. Similarly She Loves You was my favorite song and in a way even transcended my love for the Beatles. I played that song on the Beatles US second album many times a day that year. Now I can hold it up to the light and that portion of my original LP is translucent but still plays. A 45 would not even have any grooves after that many plays.This is not to mention all of the manual backwards turntable plays that all my Beatle albums endured later in the sixties.
For me, I appreciated 45s from other artists. I could get songs I wanted to hear without buying the whole album. For the Beatles, I mostly wanted the 45s for the picture sleeves. High quality photos were not easy to come by then and these were very collectable. In the case of MMT, I bought the album and the Hello, Goodbye /Walrus single even though both songs were on the album. I doubt I ever played the 45 though, instead just placing the sleeve in a scrap book. I remember when the compilation album Hey Jude came out it was a huge favorite and played at every get together for months (much like MMT when it came out).
Anyhoo, one thing I had forgotten over the years (until I replied to this thread) was how radical I Am The Walrus was considered at the time. I recall some people thinking it wasn’t even music but more like a sound collage. Some lovers of Yesterday and Michelle could not even bear to listen. Looking back maybe this is the moment the fans started forming sides; Team John vs team Paul.
@Into the Sky with Diamonds, if you see this I wanted to ask you a question. What is your opinion regarding online libraries. I discovered your book on one the other day, but hesitated checking it out in case you disapprove. For me, I like to collect things so I’ll usually read a few chapters and If I like it I’ll look it up on Amazon for purchase. Of course if I don’t like it the author loses a sale. Any opinion?
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9.31pm
7 November 2022
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I’m ignorant of most of these details of the record industry and the general history + specific Beatles history. I always thought 45s were just supplementary to LPs — I didn’t realize sometimes they were substitutions. Did record companies stop or minimize that practice by the time of the late 60s into the 70s?
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12.01am
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17 December 2012
Offline It was unusual even in the ’60s. Often single b-sides wouldn’t make the album, but most artists would usually include single a-sides on their albums as a selling point.
The Beatles were very quick in gaining artistic control over their UK releases. The Please Please Me album promoted the fact it included their first 2 singles on the album cover, by the time they’re releasing With The Beatles at the end of the same year, with a further 3 singles released, all UK #1s, none of the 6 single tracks were included on the album.
Should be remembered sb that those in the UK did not have to wait until the Red in ’73 to get many early single tracks on an album, like IWTHYH, as we got the Beatles first compilation at the end of ’66, the oft-forgotten A Collection of Beatles Oldies.
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11 June 2015
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I forgot about this one RN. My brother had it, but I’m not sure where he got it from. @Sea Belt, as Ron said there were no rules around single releases. For the most part they were released for radio and would create interest for upcoming albums. Of course Top 40 was a big deal back then. The Beatles and the Stones were exceptions to that protocol. For instance the Stones biggest single Satisfaction was not available on a corresponding album. The thing that drove a collector like me crazy were the artists that released singles that ended up being different than the album versions. Brian Wilson loved doing that – I believe he felt the production on the single should be geared toward the dynamics of radio play through automobile speakers. My favorite Beach Boy song Help Me Rhonda is a good example of this (the single rocks).
Unfortunately, my Beatle singles sleeve collection story does not have a happy ending. 
https://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/beatles-pics/the-50-best-pictures/page-16/#p357751
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5.51pm
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17 December 2012
Offline While Satisfaction was not included on the UK version of their 4th album, Out of Our Heads, it was on the US version, another example of US labels including tracks on the US equivalent release which were not on their home market versions.
Seems you may be more familiar with the Stones UK discography than their US, sb.
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
True – but it’s a “phony” album: a combination of songs from the MMT movie + “The Best non-album songs of the first 6 months of 1967”.It’s half original material and half compilation, i.e., half the songs everyone already had.
Well, it wouldn’t be an issue for fans who hadn’t bought those previous three singles, of course…
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6.09pm
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17 December 2012
Offline I don’t regard it as a “phony” album, rather a compilation that shouldn’t be compared to albums they went into the studio to record.
A debate here whether the White or Blue Album is the better is no different. Beatles studio album vs. Beatles compilation album.
So, yeah, a logical bringing together of the 11 tracks released on single or EP only in the UK during 1967, but still a compilation rather than album project.
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6.47pm
11 June 2015
Offline You are right RN, I didn’t collect US Stones albums. The first vinyl I ever bought from them was Some Girls. However, I did have this 8 track in the late sixties. I played it many times but I still can’t quite place the song Tell Me (Your Coming Back).
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7 November 2022
Offline My musical life as a consumer basically began in the 1970s (and of course continued thereafter) and I don’t think I can remember any time I felt I had to buy a single because it wasn’t on an album. Occasionally I bought a 45 on a lark, just because I thought it was cool, but not because I had to. This may not be that useful for a general overview of the matter, since my musical tastes might have been limited to stuff that already was completely supplied by LPs.
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11 June 2015
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I was basically on the road from 1969-1975, so collecting anything was nearly impossible. I depended on the kindness of strangers for my musical listening pleasure. The last 45 I bought was in 1968. Probably Hey Jude /Revolution , but it might have been a song called Are You Ready? by Barbara Mason. I remember running into it at the record store and wanting to preserve my innocent memories from earlier in the sixties. The last single I ever bought was on cassette (Grateful Dead) in the mid-eighties. It featured and extended studio version of a song I liked. All CDs since then with a few exceptions…
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They had not included singles on their albums (She Loves You , I Want To Hold Your Hand ,…) Granted, there had been exceptions with Nowhere Man and E. Rigby, but this album takes it to a whole new level.
Nowhere Man was a Rubber Soul track not released as a single in the UK, although it was in the US and elsewhere.
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