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The point is that ultimately it is a medley.

The Hole Got Fixed said

lovelyritametermaid said

 A Hard Day’s Night – Meh. I think I’d release two singles instead: And I Love Her /If I Fell – A Hard Day’s Night /I Should Have Known Better. The rest would be on a soundtrack album or something. Don’t really an album I adore.

*gasps in shock* 

I’d leave AHDN the exact way it is. The entire thing is a bop, I love every single track, and I see no point in trying to fix something that doesn’t need to be fixed. 

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No, baby, that album is flooding with filler especially on side B. Make it an EP.

Literally I— *sighs*

It just pains me to just dismiss all those great tracks on Help ! and AHDN as filler. And you just throw around the word “filler” too without actually, y’know, talking about the songs individually. They’re good ass songs. Like– literally there are so many great songs that would’ve freaking made a whole entire career for any other band! 

Geez– Can someone else please back me up on this??

  

Yes.

The ‘filler’ tracks on AHDN and Help ! are absolute bops and I’d far prefer to have an album full of them all compared to the White Album . The tracks are just awesome! Pure, unadulterated awesomeness.

  

I think the ‘filler’ tracks are more or less thrown aside when it comes to casual listeners is mostly because they don’t come up to par with the other tracks on the album. “Help ” is probably the biggest offender of them all, if you were to compare the (I’m sorry) less impressive tracks like “You’re Gonna Lose that Girl” and “Another Girl ” with absolute stellars like the title track, “I’ve Just Seen A Face ” and “You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away “. They are by no means bad tracks, but they are more often overlooked. Consistency is a key factor in determining album ratings, at least to me.

Now regarding Beatles album changes, as far as canon goes, I actually have no gripes with anything. I’m actually not a big fan of putting already released singles into existing albums, and much rather have singles come out during the album’s release. This is because (at least to me) the albums would give me more value if they contain tracks that are not available as singles, and it emphases the Beatles trend of making albums a worthwhile investment.

Non-canon, however, is another can of worms I’d like to avoid talking for now. I’ll probably come up with a list in the future, however.

The Hole Got Fixed said

CakeMaestor said

The Hole Got Fixed said

lovelyritametermaid said

 A Hard Day’s Night – Meh. I think I’d release two singles instead: And I Love Her /If I Fell – A Hard Day’s Night /I Should Have Known Better. The rest would be on a soundtrack album or something. Don’t really an album I adore.

*gasps in shock* 

I’d leave AHDN the exact way it is. The entire thing is a bop, I love every single track, and I see no point in trying to fix something that doesn’t need to be fixed. 

[/spoiler]

No, baby, that album is flooding with filler especially on side B. Make in an EP.

Literally I— *sighs*

It just pains me to just dismiss all those great tracks on Help ! and AHDN as filler. And you just throw around the word “filler” too without actually, y’know, talking about the songs individually. They’re good ass songs. Like– literally there are so many great songs that would’ve freaking made a whole entire career for any other band! 

Geez– Can someone else please back me up on this??

Yes.

The ‘filler’ tracks on AHDN and Help ! are absolute bops and I’d far prefer to have an album full of them all compared to the White Album . The tracks are just awesome! Pure, unadulterated awesomeness.

I think the ‘filler’ tracks are more or less thrown aside when it comes to casual listeners is mostly because they don’t come up to par with the other tracks on the album. “Help ” is probably the biggest offender of them all, if you were to compare the (I’m sorry) less impressive tracks like “You’re Gonna Lose that Girl” and “Another Girl ” with absolute stellars like the title track, “I’ve Just Seen A Face ” and “You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away “. They are by no means bad tracks, but they are more often overlooked. Consistency is a key factor in determining album ratings, at least to me.

Now regarding Beatles album changes, as far as canon goes, I actually have no gripes with anything. I’m actually not a big fan of putting already released singles into existing albums, and much rather have singles come out during the album’s release. This is because (at least to me) the albums would give me more value if they contain tracks that are not available as singles, and it emphases the Beatles trend of making albums a worthwhile investment.

Non-canon, however, is another can of worms I’d like to avoid talking for now. I’ll probably come up with a list in the future, however.

Now hang on.

You’re Gonna Lose That Girl is a brilliant, brilliant song – possibly the best on the album. It’s often heralded as being an amazing song. There aren’t really any ‘less impressive tracks’, but you could make an argument against TMWYS and Dizzy Miss Lizzy . Help , and AHDN especially, I feel are very consistent – much more so than the White Album or Abbey Road .

Now hang on.

I’m not gonna let you compare Help ! to Abbey Road on terms of consistency.

Abbey Road is not only consistent, but also diverse. Help ! is, at its best, a soup of different tracks that seem to be organised in a complete random order. Abbey Road has a structure strong as iron and absolutely perfect. Side A has representation from every member of the band doing what they do best. Come Together and I Want You are some of the hardest, most rocking songs by the band and perfectly represent John’s output as a songwriter, Maxwell’s Silver Hammer and Oh! Darling are so McCartney I can’t even begin to describe them. They are corny, exciting and passionate they totally do justice to Paul’s perspective on composition. Octopus’s Garden is not only one of the best tracks singed by Ringo in terms of composition and attention to detail, but he also wrote it and it shows in how dorky and fun it is. Something is George’s most critically acclaimed ballad. Side A is perfect.

Side B, which could be the one considered to have “filler” in it, compensates by making the Medley. Every song counts and those that aren’t as good (Mean Mr. Mustard, Polythene Pam ) are under 2 minutes in length and totally fit the album’s purpose. And I better not hear you say Here Comés the Sun and Because are filler. Also Sun King is bloody genius and underrated

Help ! has I Need You , Another Girl , The Night Before , Act Naturally , You Like Me Too Much , Tell Me What You See . I can’t even remember in which f*****g order because the album has such a low standard of progression. I’d argue Help !, You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away and You’re Going To Lose That Girl aren’t even that good. If Help ! is consistent in anything, is disappointment. Jules out.

sir walter raleigh said
Help is no jumble of random tracks. It is an exciting ride from beginning to end with plenty of variety to boot. It contains Rock, Blues, Folk, and so much of the unique Pop blend of any genre. You’re Going To Lose That Girl is an example of the understated instrumentation and harmony that makes the Abbey Road Medley so great. This period was especially productive, there isn’t really a track or even outtake that can be faulted. 

Well maybe you’re right, I’m not gonna deny the productivity of the fecking Beatles, I mean they were the Beatles. I’m not gonna say that Help ! doesn’t have nice tunes that I don’t revisit once in a while.

But the album ends with Dizzy Miss Lizzy . What does that tell us? Maybe the band was in fact putting out great songs, but as an ALBUM Help ! for me is a massive failure. My guess is they weren’t yet thinking in the big picture and that’s why I don’t like it.