Please consider registering
Guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
The Abbey Road Medley
19 May 2017
9.42pm
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5929
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
141sp_Permalink sp_Print

In defense of Dark Overlord, my outtakes of the medley, excluding those recorded prior to Abbey Road from Let It Be or The White Album , have the Medley as Huge Melody 1 and 2. That does show that the songs were recorded in two separate groups intentionally, unless those tracks are composite, which I don’t think they are.

She Came In Through The Bathroom Window >Golden Slumbers is a lot like Heartbreaker>Living Loving Maid by Led Zeppelin. Dark Overlord says the same about We Will Rock You > We Are The Champions, except here the songs follow each other on the original album, and are always played consecutively on the radio. (Or at least should be.) There is no sonic connection bridging the two songs, but they were made to follow each other.

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

19 May 2017
10.28pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
Apple rooftop
Members

Reviewers
Forum Posts: 12534
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
142sp_Permalink sp_Print

“The Long One/Huge Medley” as it was known at the time was first compiled 30 July 1969.

It ran:
You Never Give Me Your Money
Sun King /Mean Mr. Mustard
Her Majesty
Polythene Pam /She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
Golden Slumbers /Carry That Weight
The End

A playback was done at the end the session, and Paul asked for Her Majesty to be cut out, so that acetates could be cut.

2nd Engineer John Kurlander asked what to do with it, and Paul told him to throw it away. He’d been told never to throw anything, and so after Paul left, he retrieved the tape, and added it onto the end of the Medley tape, separating them with 20 seconds of leader tape.

When the acetate was cut, George “Porky” Peckham didn’t know Her Majesty wasn’t meant to be there, and did the whole thing; leading to Paul’s surprise, and the first hidden track.

My point here, @sir walter raleigh, is that that acetate featured their intent, not a split of the acetate later made by bootleggers.

The following people thank Ron Nasty for this post:

William Shears Campbell, PauliesGirl, Ahhh Girl, WeepingAtlasCedars, SgtPeppersBulldog, vonbontee

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966

7 July 2017
12.21am
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5929
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
143sp_Permalink sp_Print

Once again, I just have to say that The Abbey Road Medley is really special. I’m worried humanity peaked musically with it.

The following people thank sir walter raleigh for this post:

Beatlebug, Ahhh Girl, WeepingAtlasCedars

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

7 July 2017
7.54am
Avatar
Beatlebug
Find me where ye echo lays
Moderator

Moderators
Forum Posts: 18225
Member Since:
15 February 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@sir walter raleigh Don’t worry, we didn’t. We have The Dark Side Of The Moon, remember? a-hard-days-night-george-4
a-hard-days-night-george-10

The following people thank Beatlebug for this post:

sir walter raleigh, WeepingAtlasCedars, Sugarplum fairy, Martha, SgtPeppersBulldog

([{BRACKETS!}])
New to Forumpool? You can introduce yourself here.
If you love The Beatles Bible, and you have adblock, don't forget to white-list this site!
whiteheart.png
avatar_creative_signature_Hmm.pngStarSpangledBanner.png

13 June 2019
7.12pm
Avatar
ThatWeirdBeatlesGirl
The Kingdom of Marigold
Paris Olympia
Members
Forum Posts: 358
Member Since:
28 April 2019
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
145sp_Permalink sp_Print

Random question: where do you consider the Abbey Road medley to start? I’ve always considered You Never Give Me Your Money to be the first song, just because it’s so thematically similar to She Came In Through The Bathroom Window , but everyone I’ve talked to disagrees with me.

Be groovy or leave, man.

-Bob Dylan

13 June 2019
7.13pm
Avatar
Getbackintheussr
The Void
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1349
Member Since:
13 January 2019
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
146sp_Permalink sp_Print

I’ve always thought You Never Give Me Your Money was the first song, because of the transition into Sun King .

P E A C E  &  L O V E

Sunglasses-Emoji-PNG-Transparent-Background.pngstar-emoji-by-google.png1f549.png1f98f.pngbroccoli_1f966.pngdrum-with-drumsticks_1f941.pngmultiple-musical-notes_1f3b6.pngkisspng-emojipedia-whatsapp-peace-symbols-text-messaging-5af2ba93ab48a4.1265377915258569157016.jpgSparkling_Pink_Heart_Emoji_large.pngOctopus_Emoji_large.png262e.png

Without going out of my door, I can know all things on Earth...

~Signature.png~

13 June 2019
7.13pm
Avatar
Beatlebug
Find me where ye echo lays
Moderator

Moderators
Forum Posts: 18225
Member Since:
15 February 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
147sp_Permalink sp_Print

Of course You Never Give Me Your Money is the first song. I thought that was established.

([{BRACKETS!}])
New to Forumpool? You can introduce yourself here.
If you love The Beatles Bible, and you have adblock, don't forget to white-list this site!
whiteheart.png
avatar_creative_signature_Hmm.pngStarSpangledBanner.png

13 June 2019
7.14pm
Tangerine
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1276
Member Since:
30 April 2019
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
148sp_Permalink sp_Print

The official start is You Never Give Me Your Money .  Any other answer is wrong.

The following people thank Tangerine for this post:

Beatlebug
13 June 2019
7.15pm
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5929
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
149sp_Permalink sp_Print

Kaniffee said
The official start is You Never Give Me Your Money .  Any other answer is wrong.

  

Anybody who thinks this isn’t listening close enough. There is a clear connection from Because using bird noises and the piano riff comes in at the exact right moment. So satisfying to hear. 

The following people thank sir walter raleigh for this post:

Beatlebug

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

13 June 2019
7.16pm
Avatar
50yearslate
Playing on the roofs again
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 8759
Member Since:
15 November 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
150sp_Permalink sp_Print

No way. There’s a clear pause between the end of Because and the beginning of You Never Give Me Your Money .

Love one another.

- - -

(I'm Fiddy, not Walrian)

- - -

2018:IMG_3980.PNG 2019: 00A040E0-7F67-413C-9CAB-AB4C27EB864A.png 2020:offtopic.png

13 June 2019
7.16pm
Avatar
Beatlebug
Find me where ye echo lays
Moderator

Moderators
Forum Posts: 18225
Member Since:
15 February 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
151sp_Permalink sp_Print

There are plenty of connections throughout the album and no one denies it, but YNGMYM is still the actual beginning of the actual medley.

The following people thank Beatlebug for this post:

ewe2

([{BRACKETS!}])
New to Forumpool? You can introduce yourself here.
If you love The Beatles Bible, and you have adblock, don't forget to white-list this site!
whiteheart.png
avatar_creative_signature_Hmm.pngStarSpangledBanner.png

13 June 2019
7.17pm
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5929
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
152sp_Permalink sp_Print

You Never Give Me Your Money is one correct answer. I was disputing the statement that any other answer is wrong. 

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

13 June 2019
7.17pm
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5929
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
153sp_Permalink sp_Print

“Huge Melody” which is the original form of the Medley begins with You Never Give Me Your Money , but also includes Her Majesty in between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam . However Her Majesty was cut and moved after The End , after which there is a ‘clear break.” Is Her Majesty the true end of the medley? The original form and order was not used, so It is arguable where it starts on the actual album.  

My point is there are multiple ways to argue it. 

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

13 June 2019
7.18pm
Avatar
Beatlebug
Find me where ye echo lays
Moderator

Moderators
Forum Posts: 18225
Member Since:
15 February 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
154sp_Permalink sp_Print

sir walter raleigh said
“Huge Melody” which is the original form of the Medley begins with You Never Give Me Your Money , but also includes Her Majesty in between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam . However Her Majesty was cut and moved after The End , after which there is a ‘clear break.” Is Her Majesty the true end of the medley? The original form and order was not used, so It is arguable where it starts on the actual album.  

My point is there are multiple ways to argue it.   

I think that pretty much sums up our argument. YNGMYM was always intended to be the opening. The break thing is not important as there is also a clear break between Bathroom Window and Golden Slumbers — it’s not quite a proper medley in that it does have breaks in it, that’s beside the point.

The following people thank Beatlebug for this post:

ewe2

([{BRACKETS!}])
New to Forumpool? You can introduce yourself here.
If you love The Beatles Bible, and you have adblock, don't forget to white-list this site!
whiteheart.png
avatar_creative_signature_Hmm.pngStarSpangledBanner.png

13 June 2019
7.19pm
Avatar
50yearslate
Playing on the roofs again
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 8759
Member Since:
15 November 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
155sp_Permalink sp_Print

Beatlebug said

sir walter raleigh said

“Huge Melody” which is the original form of the Medley begins with You Never Give Me Your Money , but also includes Her Majesty in between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam . However Her Majesty was cut and moved after The End , after which there is a ‘clear break.” Is Her Majesty the true end of the medley? The original form and order was not used, so It is arguable where it starts on the actual album.  

My point is there are multiple ways to argue it.   

I think that pretty much sums up our argument. YNGMYM was always intended to be the opening. The break thing is not important as there is also a clear break between Bathroom Window and Golden Slumbers — it’s not quite a proper medley in that it does have breaks in it, that’s beside the point.

  

I actually consider SCITTBW to be the end of the medley, and then I think of Golden Slumbers – The End to be a little medley of its own, and then Her Majesty is just a little addition on the end.

Love one another.

- - -

(I'm Fiddy, not Walrian)

- - -

2018:IMG_3980.PNG 2019: 00A040E0-7F67-413C-9CAB-AB4C27EB864A.png 2020:offtopic.png

13 June 2019
7.19pm
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5929
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
156sp_Permalink sp_Print

sir walter raleigh said 
You Never Give Me Your Money is one correct answer. I was disputing the statement that any other answer is wrong. 

  

My point still stands. The Huge Melody argument doesn’t stand on its own because the Beatles did not use that order on Abbey Road

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

13 June 2019
7.20pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
Apple rooftop
Members

Reviewers
Forum Posts: 12534
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
157sp_Permalink sp_Print

But the Rough Mix was a test of if the Medley worked, @sir walter raleigh, and the removal of Her Majesty  fixed something they felt didn’t work. Apart from that the order stayed the same. There is no evidence that they ever tried assembling the five recordings that made up the final Medley in any other order than the order it was put together in on 30 July, apart from snipping out Her Majesty . Everything else is in the same place as it was in that first Rough Mix.

The following people thank Ron Nasty for this post:

ewe2

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966

13 June 2019
7.21pm
Avatar
AppleScruffJunior
Sitting here doing nothing but procrastinating...
Apple rooftop
Reviewers

Members
Forum Posts: 7585
Member Since:
18 March 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
158sp_Permalink sp_Print

At least we can all agree that the YNGMYM orchestral blast in the middle of Carry That Weight is the best part of the whole medley, right….right?!?

 

I always do a massive air drum smash every time it comes on, it really makes the entire thing.

The following people thank AppleScruffJunior for this post:

Beatlebug, Beatlebug, QuarryMan

 

INTROVERTS UNITE! Separately....in your own homes!

                 ***

Make Love, Not Wardrobes!

                ***

"Stop throwing jelly beans at me"- George Harrison

13 June 2019
7.22pm
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5929
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
159sp_Permalink sp_Print

I agree that the medley starts with You Never Give Me Your Money for the record, and am playing devil’s advocate. My point is supposed to be that those that claim it starts at Sun King are equally valid as those that skip Carry That Weight (*cough cough). I disagree with both but will hear the argument and think there are multiple correct answers. 

 

AppleScruffJunior said 
At least we can all agree that the YNGMYM orchestral blast in the middle of Carry That Weight is the best part of the whole medley, right….right?!?

 

I always do a massive air drum smash every time it comes on, it really makes the entire thing.

  

@QuarryMan started a discussion about this in (If i remember correctly) the song thread for Carry That Weight . So good. 

The following people thank sir walter raleigh for this post:

Beatlebug, Beatlebug

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

13 June 2019
7.22pm
Avatar
Beatlebug
Find me where ye echo lays
Moderator

Moderators
Forum Posts: 18225
Member Since:
15 February 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
160sp_Permalink sp_Print

I’ve had a version of Abbey Road from which YNGMYM was missing (that track was too scratched to play on my CD) for ages, and I can tell you the medley starting from Sun King kinda works but it’s not very cool. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

([{BRACKETS!}])
New to Forumpool? You can introduce yourself here.
If you love The Beatles Bible, and you have adblock, don't forget to white-list this site!
whiteheart.png
avatar_creative_signature_Hmm.pngStarSpangledBanner.png

Forum Timezone: Europe/London
Most Users Ever Online: 2057
Currently Online: Richard, LucyInTheSkyWithHackneyDiamonds
Guest(s) 209
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
Starr Shine?: 16105
Ron Nasty: 12534
Zig: 9827
50yearslate: 8759
Necko: 8047
AppleScruffJunior: 7585
parlance: 7111
mr. Sun king coming together: 6394
Mr. Kite: 6147
trcanberra: 6064
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 88
Members: 2916
Moderators: 5
Admins: 1
Forum Stats:
Groups: 3
Forums: 44
Topics: 5552
Posts: 383677
Newest Members:
SgtPepper1967, james_the_eggman, jamesthewalrus, TatterCat, Gjoob
Moderators: Joe: 5713, meanmistermustard: 25144, Ahhh Girl: 22623, Beatlebug: 18225, The Hole Got Fixed: 8410
Administrators: Joe: 5713