9.46pm
8 August 2019
ABBEY ROAD (1969) AVERAGED RANK
This is a copy paste:
I’ve been working on this for a couple of days. I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating the work of that AvecPaix guy (not gonna @tt him cause I think he’s long gone) and I averaged every post in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case Abbey Road . I clarify my process and rules below.
1 – Something (489 points)
2 – Here Comes the Sun (466 points)
3 – You Never Give Me Your Money (447 points)
4 – Come Together (406 points)
5 – I Want You (She’s So Heavy) (370 points)
6 – Golden Slumbers (369 points)
7 – The End (358 points)
8 – Because (333 points)
9 – Oh! Darling (324 points)
10 – She Came In Through the Bathroom Window (320 points)
11 – Octopus’s Garden (312 points)
12 – Carry That Weight (254 points)
13 – Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (246 points)
14 – Polythene Pam (231 points)
15 – Mean Mr. Mustard (227 points)
16 – Sun King (190 points)
17 – Her Majesty (68 points)
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Averaging process and rules:
A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 16) and as the list progresses into the “worst” tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 17 Abbey Road songs ranked.
IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.
Particular cases:
-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there’s a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don’t count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn’t have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.
-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs “official” tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don’t get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.
-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that “that would exactly be [their] ranking” and don’t post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.
-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).
-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, “1” universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it’s the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.
-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn’t that way. So I decided I’ll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I’ll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I’ll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones’ ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day’s Night , Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine ‘s Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.
-NO. 7- If there are “ties” in someone’s ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won’t represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it’s more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it’s mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.
-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are “tied” then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there’s a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I’ll just give more points to the one named first.
-NO. 9- However, if there’s a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item “-NO. 7-“.
-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn’t want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion too
All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I’m sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.
IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.
Also here’s a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I’ll try edit these as well):
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12.51am
18 December 2011
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Ah! This was a tough one:
17) Her Majesty
16) Because
15) Maxwell’s Silver Hammer
14) Mean Mr. Mustard
13) Oh! Darling
12) Come Together
11) Octopus’s Garden
10) I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
9) Carry That Weight
8) The End
7) You Never Give Me Your Money
6) Sun King
5) She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
4) Polythene Pam
3) Something
2) Here Comes The Sun
1) Golden Slumbers
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5.03am
20 January 2012
I hope this doesn’t hurt my brain.
1.) I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
2.) Come Together
4.) The End
5.) Something
6.) Because
7.) Golden Slumbers
8.)Oh! Darling
9.) Octopus Garden
10.) Polythene Pam
11.) She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
12.) Her Majesty
13.) You Never Give Me Your Money
14.) Mean Mr. Mustard
15.)Sun King
That was tough especially with the medley songs. I had a hard time deciding which I liked better individually! I know it’s weird that I have Her Majesty above a lot of the songs but I’m actually very fond of that little diddy!
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6.13pm
4 September 2010
1. The Medley (unfair to view as individual tracks)
2. Something
3. Here Comes The Sun
4. Because
5. Oh! Darling
6. I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
7. Come Together
8. Octopus’s Garden
9. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer
You all will have read that Dave Dee is no longer with us. But Mickey and Titch and I would like to carry on the good work that's always gone down in number two.
9.46pm
12 April 2012
This is my ranking but I like every song
17) Sun King
16) I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
15) Octopus’s Garden
14) Her Majesty
13) Polythene Pam
12) Mean Mr. Mustard
11) The End
10) Because
9) Come Together
8) Carry That Weight
7) She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
6) You Never Give Me Your Money
5) Here Comes The Sun
4) Something
3) Maxwell’s Silver Hammer
1) Golden Slumbers
1) Oh! Darling
Once there was a way to get back homewards. Once there was a way to get back home; sleep pretty darling do not cry. And I will sing a lullaby
3.10am
3 March 2012
With the understanding that the medley is the medley and my brain can’t deal with breaking that up…
Here Comes The Sun : Because I just feel really, amazingly AMAZING when I hear it. Lifts my soul!
Something : As Frank Sinatra said, the best Lennon / McCartney of all time… (um… Frank? About that)
The Medley: It’s the medley. People who say “which medley” need not apply for my friendship.
I Want you (She’s so Heavy): How many timing signatures here? Wow.
Maxwell’s silver Hammer: Why so high? My daughter’s and I love this. 7 and 4. They don’t get the lyrics yet thank god!
Oh Darling: Killer vocal by Sir Paul
Come Together : I only put it this low because I think it’s a jab at Paul from John and I hate that crap. “1 and 1 and 1 is 3… Got to be good lookin’ cause he’s so hard to see”? You’re on the outside looking in Paulie. BUT… John’s vocal is fantastic. The riff here… bass line. Classic tune and without the undercurrent I hear it rates much higher.
Because : The version on Love? With just the vocal? Sublime. This version? Also Sublime. The band Sublime? Not so much.
Octopus’s’ Garden: My kids and I love this one too. Wish I could play like George does on this one. Ringo’s vocal is perfect and it’s only last because, well, this is Abbey Road after all! Like being the 9th richest person in the world. You’re still doing pretty well there aren’t you!
A square is not a square when the sides are less than four...
5.17pm
1 December 2009
…ontherun said
The Medley: It’s the medley. People who say “which medley” need not apply for my friendship.
Haha, are you referring to people who think of it as TWO medleys? (Because of the lack of any segue between “…Window” and “Golden Slumbers “.)
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
5.31pm
3 March 2012
vonbontee said
…ontherun said
The Medley: It’s the medley. People who say “which medley” need not apply for my friendship.
Haha, are you referring to people who think of it as TWO medleys? (Because of the lack of any segue between “…Window” and “Golden Slumbers “.)
Ha! No… more so people whose favorite “band” is Justin Beiber.
A square is not a square when the sides are less than four...
6.19pm
1 December 2009
…ontherun said
vonbontee said
…ontherun said
The Medley: It’s the medley. People who say “which medley” need not apply for my friendship.
Haha, are you referring to people who think of it as TWO medleys? (Because of the lack of any segue between “…Window” and “Golden Slumbers “.)
Ha! No… more so people whose favorite “band” is Justin Beiber.
The Justin Biebers?! Never heard of ’em.
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JulesGEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
6.42pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Weakest is Oh Darling (prefer the Paul and John duet on Anthology and think that John would have sang it better than Paul).
However Abbey Road is the only album (and that includes non beatles albums) where i think – ok i’ll listen to (for example) You Never Give Me Your Money onwards, oh but Because is before that, no will go from Here Comes The Sun , no wait I Want You, no Octopus’s Garden – and end up playing the whole darn album.
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4.14am
22 May 2012
I personally think this is the best album ever recorded! The medley is the single most genius piece of musical mastery I’ve ever heard. So…here goes…
1) The Medley
Rated individauly: 1) You Never Give Me Your Money
2) She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
3) Golden Slumbers
4) Sun King
5) Polythene Pam
6) Mean Mr. Mustard
7) The End
8) Carry That Weight
2) Oh! Darling (don’t think John would’ve even come close to rippin’ that one out like Macca did!)
3) Come Together (great bass line, great rythym section for that matter)
4) I Want You {She’s So Heavy} (another great bassline to a badass blues progresser)
5) Something (gorgeous…Georgeous)
6) Because (best harmonies ever!)
7) Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (song just swings)
8) Octopuses’ Garden (love the background vocals and underwater overdubs, worked great for Cirque!)
9) Here Comes The Sun (moog, baby, moog!)
10) Her Majesty (not a part of the medley!)
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-All Good Children go to Heaven
6.49am
1 May 2010
3.20pm
3 May 2012
3.23pm
3 May 2012
meanmistermustard said
Weakest is Oh Darling (prefer the Paul and John duet on Anthology and think that John would have sang it better than Paul).However Abbey Road is the only album (and that includes non beatles albums) where i think – ok i’ll listen to (for example) You Never Give Me Your Money onwards, oh but Because is before that, no will go from Here Comes The Sun , no wait I Want You, no Octopus’s Garden – and end up playing the whole darn album.
You’re so right,I was reading your comment and thinking>that’s me,that’s me,there’s someone out there like me! 🙂
Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.
(Passover - I. Curtis)
1.03am
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Nothing to do with ranking but this is how life kicks you.
July 1969.
The Beatles are slowly drifting apart and at times its pretty hard work.
Apple is a nightmare and Klein is in sacking everyone making the place even more miserable.
John and Yoko have gone to Scotland and been in a car accident, Yoko quite badly and so she has to remain in bed.
Beatle sessions resume for a new album so John has to turn up and has Yoko wheeled into EMI studios in her bed.
And what song does he find is being recorded on his first day back?
The nemesis of non-Paul Beatles, the song that had the other 3 waking up screaming in the middle of the night after hours of rehearsal in Twickenham.
I bet John was not amused and its no surprise he stayed in the control room.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
8.09am
5 November 2011
1. Golden Slumbers (This song might just be my very favorite Paul song. The melody is hauntingly beautiful, and Paul’s voice is just too perfect. This song makes the medley. Like every other song on the album, the placement of this one is perfect.)
2. The End (This song is so great, sometimes I get upset thinking about it too hard. It seems like in that one song, they summed up their whole field of existence. Not their best, or most mind-blowing, but by far the most intense in a different sense of it all.)
3. You Never Give Me Your Money (I just really like this one. I think it’s Paul’s songs that really make the medley the best.)
4. Mean Mr. Mustard (I really love this song, and when it comes on, even if I know it’s coming I get really excited because the beginning is my favorite!)
5. Octopus’s Garden (Quite possibly the happiest song I have ever heard. This one gets me so happy there are times I just can’t stand it.)
6. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (I absolutely love this song! I love how happy it is considering what it’s about. Paul’s story-telling songs are my favorites.)
7. Here Comes The Sun (This song is so funny. Keep it coming, LOL! I can’t even think about it. Keep it coming? Oh my gosh, I think I’m dying.)
8. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (By itself, I think this song is fantastic, and it being in the medley makes it all that much greater.)
9. Her Majesty (Love it! Even though every time it comes on it scares me, it is a great end to the album. Such a cute little song.)
10. Something (George’s two songs on this album are really good. This is the first album where I feel all of his songs are just as, if not stronger than John and Paul’s songs. So, yeah. I love this song.)
11. Carry That Weight (The placement of this song is just perfect. And when they bring in You Never Give Me Your Money ? It’s pretty amazing.)
12. Because (I was very obsessed with this song for a really long time. The song itself really doesn’t seem that great, but their voices are just too much.)
13. I Want You (She’s So Heavy) (I go back and forth with this one. The instrumental part is great, though sometimes the repetitiveness of it gets to me. John’s vocals just kill me, and when Paul goes in too? Oh my gosh! I think most of the times I listen to it, though, I cannot keep my attention on it the whole time, and the end bugs me for the most part of when I listen to it.
14. Oh! Darling (I loved this one for the longest time, but I can’t listen to it too much now, because it gets old fast.)
15. Polythene Pam (Not my favorite part of the medley, but not at all bad.)
16. Come Together (Great song, but overall nothing all too much extraordinarily special about it. Also, I don’t know why, but it really bugs me that this was a double A-side single. This should have been the B-side!)
17. Sun King (This one is good, but my favorite part is how it transitions to Mean Mr. Mustard for sure. It’s too quiet and it drags. I have to be in the mood for it or else it just makes me really upset.)
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11.14am
12 April 2012
Wow unknown, after reading your post I decided to make a new ranking.
17. Sun King (sorry but I think it’s a bit boring (I like it, though))
16. Come Together (I see it like you unknown great song but nothing very special)
15. Oh! Darling (This was my favourite Abbey Road song but I think I’ve just listened to it too much (still a great song but I often skip it)
14. I Want You (great song I like it but in the end I just think come on I’ve listened to this coda for 3 minutes or so, stop it)
13. Polythene Pam (It fits well in the medley but as a song it’s a bit annoying (especially the first guitar chords although I like them in the medley after mean mr. mustard). I like the solo in the end which leads to SCITTBW
12. Octopus’s Garden (my favourite Ringo song but I just don’t like his voice)
11. Her Majesty (Paul should have put it on McCartney (his solo album) I think The End is a better ending (with the long orchestra only part audible in the anthology version which it closes). Great song, though, I’m a big fan of it, would fit better on let it be than Maggie Mae )
10. Because (I love this song especially it’s 3 part harmony and it’s harpsichord, it’s guitar and george’s moog which is amazing in this song. I just prefer the next songs.
9. Carry That Weight (I love this song even more, the reprise of You Never Give Me Your Money , the little solo after the refrain, just awesome. I just don’t like the change from Carry That Weight to the end I think they should have made it one note earlier or later I’m not sure but it feels like there’s one note too much or too little)
8. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (oh awesome song with it’s moog and it’s so happy although the lyrics aren’t happy at all. George’s bass playing is amazing in this song)
7. Mean Mr. Mustard (after Revolution my second favourite john song, it’s so nice I like it’s fuzz bass. The most amazing part is when paul comes in in the mean old man part there it becomes a two part harmony, and then in the end the rythm change after which it turns to Polythene Pam , just amazing.)
6. You Never Give Me Your Money (oh it’s so amazing with it’s many parts)
5. Here Comes The Sun (definitely one of george’s best songs)
4. Something (even better than hcts, it’s solo is awesome than the organ and the orchestra, it’s simply awesome)
3. The End (it’s four solos (by every beatle) are amazing and then sudden,y the piano comes in and then the end in the end piano part, so awesome. Te end of the end is even better in the anthology version with it’s long orchestra only part (although in general I prefer the Abbey Road version of the end, the guitars during ringo’s drum solos are nice but not better than the solo without them and it misses too much of the song))
2. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (this song is awesome, the lead guitar and bass line are amazing (maybe both played by mccartney but I think at least one thing is played by harrison) the backing vocals are awesome, it’s just awesome)
1. Golden Slumbers (such a nice song, the teamwork of piano, strings and bass in the beginning is so amzing then the amazing chorus and then the little strings solo in the second verse after “to get back homewards”. This song is the best song of all time.
All in all Abbey Road is definitely my favourite album, every song is awesome
Once there was a way to get back homewards. Once there was a way to get back home; sleep pretty darling do not cry. And I will sing a lullaby
2.13pm
22 July 2012
17. Sun King
16. She Came In Through The Window
15. Mean Mr. Mustard
14. Polythene Pam
13. The End
12. I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
10. Her Majesty
8. You Never Give Me Your Money
6. Oh! Darling
5. Because
1. Something
5.17pm
24 July 2012
17) Her Majesty
16) Sun King
15) Polythene Pam
14) Mean Mr. Mustard
13) Oh! Darling
11) Come Together
10) Octopuses Garden
9) Because
8) She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
7) I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
5) You Never Give Me Your Money
4) Something
1) The End
4.50am
8 August 2012
1: Abbey Road medley (Cant split them)
2: Something
3: Here Comes The Sun
4: Oh Darling
5: Maxwells Silver Hammer
6: Because
7: Come Together
8: Octopus Garden
9: I Want You/She’s So Heavy
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