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Cheers for that.

So, if I understood correctly, merging both your answers together, you’d say:

 

Left column:

  1. post-PID
  2. pre-PID
  3. pre-PID
  4. n/a – not a Beatle
  5. pre-PID
  6. Unsure
  7. Ringo, but not sure
  8. pre-PID, but not sure

Right column:

  1. post-PID
  2. post-PID
  3. pre-PID
  4. pre-PID
  5. Unsure
  6. post-PID
  7. post-PID
  8. Unsure

Well, there’s good news and bad news. The good news is: you got some of them right. The right answers are:

 

They’re all Paul. However, some are pre-PID, and some are post-PID.

 

Left column:

  1. post-PID – correct
  2. pre-PID – correct 
  3. post-PID – false
  4. pre-PID – false
  5. pre-PID – correct
  6. pre-PID – undecided
  7. post-PID – false
  8. post-PID – false

Right column:

  1. post-PID – correct
  2. post-PID – false
  3. post-PID – false
  4. pre-PID – correct
  5. post-PID – undecided
  6. pre-PID – false
  7. post-PID – correct
  8. pre-PID – undecided

That means out of 16 possible answers, you got 6 right, 7 wrong, and you couldn’t decide on 3, so I’ll count them neither wrong nor right. Congratulations, you scored almost as well as you would have if you had made random guesses a-hard-days-night-george-3Had you flipped coins, you might even have gotten a better score. I’m not saying that to belittle you in any way. Like I said, I applaud you for even trying. Most people don’t even bother. But what I’m trying to show you here, is that the differences you’ve convinced yourself of, are mostly in your mind, and that of those who believe Paul died. When defining features such as hairstyles are taken out of the equation, it becomes much harder to stick to the claim that Paul is not Paul.

I would in all honestly love to discuss the other things you’ve mentioned, but are you willing to change your mind if the clues/changes you think you see are dispelled? If you’ve already made up your mind and can’t be swayed, then I’d rather not waste my energy since I have so little of it to begin with.

Anyway, below is the adjusted collage in which you can see the photos I’ve used. 

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JPM-Fangirl said
Hang on, did you just say you don’t see the resemblance between Paul and Jim?

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And yes, very serious…

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Anyway, it’s bed time for me. Good night, sleep tight.

Hi again,

Jim has a much longer face than Paul. Eyebrows very similar.

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Cheers for that.

So, if I understood correctly, merging both your answers together, you’d say:

 

Left column:

    1. post-PID
      1. pre-PID
        1. pre-PID
          1. n/a – not a Beatle
            1. pre-PID
              1. Unsure
                1. Ringo, but not sure
                  1. pre-PID, but not sure

                  Right column:

                    1. post-PID
                      1. post-PID
                        1. pre-PID
                          1. pre-PID
                            1. Unsure
                              1. post-PID
                                1. post-PID
                                  1. Unsure

                                  Well, there’s good news and bad news. The good news is: you got some of them right. The right answers are:

                                   

                                  They’re all Paul. However, some are pre-PID, and some are post-PID.

                                   

                                  Left column:

                                    1. post-PID – correct
                                      1. pre-PID – correct 
                                        1. post-PID – false
                                          1. pre-PID – false
                                            1. pre-PID – correct
                                              1. pre-PID – undecided
                                                1. post-PID – false
                                                  1. post-PID – false

                                                  Right column:

                                                    1. post-PID – correct
                                                      1. post-PID – false
                                                        1. post-PID – false
                                                          1. pre-PID – correct
                                                            1. post-PID – undecided
                                                              1. pre-PID – false
                                                                1. post-PID – correct
                                                                  1. pre-PID – undecided

                                                                  That means out of 16 possible answers, you got 6 right, 7 wrong, and you couldn’t decide on 3, so I’ll count them neither wrong nor right. Congratulations, you scored almost as well as you would have if you had made random guesses a-hard-days-night-george-3Had you flipped coins, you might even have gotten a better score. I’m not saying that to belittle you in any way. Like I said, I applaud you for even trying. Most people don’t even bother. But what I’m trying to show you here, is that the differences you’ve convinced yourself of, are mostly in your mind, and that of those who believe Paul died. When defining features such as hairstyles are taken out of the equation, it becomes much harder to stick to the claim that Paul is not Paul.

                                                                  I would in all honestly love to discuss the other things you’ve mentioned, but are you willing to change your mind if the clues/changes you think you see are dispelled? If you’ve already made up your mind and can’t be swayed, then I’d rather not waste my energy since I have so little of it to begin with.

                                                                  Anyway, below is the adjusted collage in which you can see the photos I’ve used. 

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                                                                  You can add one more correct, 4 in left column is not Paul at all. He’s another muso, whose name I can’t remember right now.

                                                                  JPM-Fangirl said
                                                                  Cheers for that.

                                                                  So, if I understood correctly, merging both your answers together, you’d say:

                                                                   

                                                                  Left column:

                                                                    1. post-PID
                                                                      1. pre-PID
                                                                        1. pre-PID
                                                                          1. n/a – not a Beatle
                                                                            1. pre-PID
                                                                              1. Unsure
                                                                                1. Ringo, but not sure
                                                                                  1. pre-PID, but not sure

                                                                                  Right column:

                                                                                    1. post-PID
                                                                                      1. post-PID
                                                                                        1. pre-PID
                                                                                          1. pre-PID
                                                                                            1. Unsure
                                                                                              1. post-PID
                                                                                                1. post-PID
                                                                                                  1. Unsure

                                                                                                  Well, there’s good news and bad news. The good news is: you got some of them right. The right answers are:

                                                                                                   

                                                                                                  They’re all Paul. However, some are pre-PID, and some are post-PID.

                                                                                                   

                                                                                                  Left column:

                                                                                                    1. post-PID – correct
                                                                                                      1. pre-PID – correct 
                                                                                                        1. post-PID – false
                                                                                                          1. pre-PID – false
                                                                                                            1. pre-PID – correct
                                                                                                              1. pre-PID – undecided
                                                                                                                1. post-PID – false
                                                                                                                  1. post-PID – false

                                                                                                                  Right column:

                                                                                                                    1. post-PID – correct
                                                                                                                      1. post-PID – false
                                                                                                                        1. post-PID – false
                                                                                                                          1. pre-PID – correct
                                                                                                                            1. post-PID – undecided
                                                                                                                              1. pre-PID – false
                                                                                                                                1. post-PID – correct
                                                                                                                                  1. pre-PID – undecided

                                                                                                                                  That means out of 16 possible answers, you got 6 right, 7 wrong, and you couldn’t decide on 3, so I’ll count them neither wrong nor right. Congratulations, you scored almost as well as you would have if you had made random guesses a-hard-days-night-george-3Had you flipped coins, you might even have gotten a better score. I’m not saying that to belittle you in any way. Like I said, I applaud you for even trying. Most people don’t even bother. But what I’m trying to show you here, is that the differences you’ve convinced yourself of, are mostly in your mind, and that of those who believe Paul died. When defining features such as hairstyles are taken out of the equation, it becomes much harder to stick to the claim that Paul is not Paul.

                                                                                                                                  I would in all honestly love to discuss the other things you’ve mentioned, but are you willing to change your mind if the clues/changes you think you see are dispelled? If you’ve already made up your mind and can’t be swayed, then I’d rather not waste my energy since I have so little of it to begin with.

                                                                                                                                  Anyway, below is the adjusted collage in which you can see the photos I’ve used. 

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                                                                                                                                  The photo 4 down on left is not Paul, it’s another muso. So you can add one more to my score 🙂 I will look up his name, I can’t remember it atm.

                                                                                                                                  Thanks that was fun and challenging.

                                                                                                                                  Yes, I am open to talking about ideas around this topic. And willing to change my position if convinced.

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                                                                                                                                  Lost track of things now. Are we now in there being Paul, Faul and another person who’s also “became” Paul? 

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                                                                                                                                  Yes, it is Paul McCartney .

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                                                                                                                                  It’s obviously him. Not just because it says so in the bottom right corner, but you can easily tell by the scar on his upper lip. And everything else. It just goes to show how much influence lighting and a different haircut (plus, in this case, longer sideboards) really have.

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                                                                                                                                  Lost track of things now. Are we now in there being Paul, Faul and another person who’s also “became” Paul? 

                                                                                                                                  I don’t know, @meanmistermustard. I’m suffering from major sleep deprivation so I’m rambling a bit, I’m afraid. It isn’t easy to convey my thoughts when I’m this knackered, let alone do it in English, so forgive me if I make no sense at all. I fear writing all of this in Dutch would be even more confusing, though… a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

                                                                                                                                  I do know I’m trying to demonstrate that many of the so-called differences can be attributed to distracting factors such as a different hairstyle, or weight loss. Paul is obviously one of those people whose face instantly looks different at the slightest weight gain or loss. I can see how that might confuse people, especially when combined with a moustache or a radically different haircut. That’s why I posted that challenge, to show they eyes never changed.

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                                                                                                                                  Yes, it is Paul McCartney .

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                                                                                                                                  It’s obviously him. Not just because it says so in the bottom right corner, but you can easily tell by the scar on his upper lip. And everything else. It just goes to show how much influence lighting and a different haircut (plus, in this case, longer sideboards) really have.

                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the source. Somebody told me this photo wasn’t Paul ages ago. His eyes are lit up so much.

                                                                                                                                  Status quo with my score then.
                                                                                                                                   

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                                                                                                                                  Faul is Paul, while Paul is the walrus. Or so, John said. 

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                                                                                                                                  Sceptic said

                                                                                                                                  JPM-Fangirl said
                                                                                                                                  Yes, it is Paul McCartney .

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                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the source. Somebody told me this photo wasn’t Paul ages ago. His eyes are lit up so much.

                                                                                                                                  Status quo with my score then.
                                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                                  He looks a bit like Syd Barrett there… a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

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                                                                                                                                  Shamrock Womlbs said

                                                                                                                                  Sceptic said

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                                                                                                                                  Yes, it is Paul McCartney .

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                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the source. Somebody told me this photo wasn’t Paul ages ago. His eyes are lit up so much.

                                                                                                                                  Status quo with my score then.
                                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                                  He looks a bit like Syd Barrett there… a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

                                                                                                                                  Perhaps the photographer was inspired by this photo. It definitely seems like an attempt to recreate it, doesn’t it?

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                                                                                                                                  OK, but I could post 100 comparative photos, and they are all open to the usual lighting/angle/ageing explanations. For starters, here are a few showing how the changes occurred, some in the space of a few months.images.jpgImage Enlarger

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                                                                                                                                  Would you honestly say these are fair comparisons? The expressions are completely different, for starters. Try these (not made by me):

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                                                                                                                                  I was not looking for unfair comparisons, just comparisons that show differences. A lot of work has gone into photoshopping photos, making the noses the same, when in unaltered photos they are very different. Also plastic surgery throughout the years. I would say the ones you posted are unfair comparisons. They compare Faul with anothe pic of Faul, for instance. Others are altered photos. Some show clear differences in facial features. Who made up your comparison collage? What was their agenda? (Please notice the fake earlobe in next pic on right). My photos are unaltered and show clear differences in nose, jawline, cheekbones.

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                                                                                                                                  Here’s an example of what people accepted as Paul, dated 1967:

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                                                                                                                                  Does anyone believe that’s Paul on the cover of Beat?

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                                                                                                                                  Yes. That’s Paul. Who else would it be? It isn’t Ringo, I’m quite sure about that a-hard-days-night-paul-11 a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

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                                                                                                                                  Yes. That’s Paul. Who else would it be? It isn’t Ringo, I’m quite sure about that a-hard-days-night-paul-11 a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

                                                                                                                                  Well, he’s a man of a thousand faces.

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                                                                                                                                  I find that John changed more over the years than Paul.

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                                                                                                                                  Well, he’s a man of a thousand faces.

                                                                                                                                  Incorrect. He’s man of a thousand voices.

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                                                                                                                                  Sceptic said

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                                                                                                                                  Do what we have asked. Keep all things even **remotely** related to PID in this thread.

                                                                                                                                  If you like other Beatles conspiracies, we have a thread for you. Check it out https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..-theories/ Just keep posts related to that theme in THAT thread.

                                                                                                                                  So the theme in this thread isn’t PID Theories? Please explain your parameters. Everything I have posted here has been relevant to PID. (That other thread you suggest too way out there for me).

                                                                                                                                  The theme of THIS thread is PID. The theme of THE OTHER THREAD that Ahhh Girl had dug up for you is for other conspiracy theories if you’re interested.

                                                                                                                                  I think the point everyone is trying to make is quite clear, Sceptic. It doesn’t take an Einstein to understand simple English. 

                                                                                                                                  The other thread is too “out there” for me – ideas that the Beatles didn’t exist, were clones etc. I am only interested in exploring the theory that Paul died around 1966. If everyone on this thread is opposed to the theory, why have the thread? I am not a conpiracy theorist, just wanting to discuss some anomalies I see.

                                                                                                                                  This thread exists because the ‘PiD theory exists, its part of Beatles history. To discuss that theory only post here.

                                                                                                                                  To discuss other theories go to the other theories thread.

                                                                                                                                  My understanding is that for most of the day you have been posting everywhere else the same topics and ignored repeated requests to not do so. Please listen and heed requests before its too late.

                                                                                                                                  Understood.

                                                                                                                                  @Ahhh Girl Can you tell me how to post a PID relevant article? I posted it on “Add Topic”, but I think it was deleted. Am I not supposed to use add topic? Thanks.

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                                                                                                                                  Well, he’s a man of a thousand faces.

                                                                                                                                  Incorrect. He’s man of a thousand voices.

                                                                                                                                  Maybe both. He has had so many different looks over the years.

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                                                                                                                                  Nah, you just hit the reply button not the add topic button. Or if your are worried about accidently hitting the add topic button, you can just quote someone to get the reply box.

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                                                                                                                                  Sceptic said

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                                                                                                                                  Sceptic said

                                                                                                                                  Well, he’s a man of a thousand faces.

                                                                                                                                  Incorrect. He’s man of a thousand voices.

                                                                                                                                  Maybe both. He has had so many different looks over the years.

                                                                                                                                  He’s the Beatle who changed the least in terms of looks. Even now he looks the same…like Starr Shine? said John changed the most..so was John was replaced as well? xP (In fact, that’d be more believable)

                                                                                                                                   

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                                                                                                                                  Right, John did change a lot. Out of the four, I’d say George and Paul changed the least.

                                                                                                                                  @Sceptic, I’m curious to learn what makes you think it isn’t Paul in that photo. Is it because he’s playing the drums? Is it because he pulls a funny face? Something else? Because when I Google for photos of Paul playing the drums, it becomes obvious he rather enjoyed mucking about and having fun when he was at the kit.

                                                                                                                                   

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